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THE TRIAL & EXECUTION OF JOAN OF ARC
 


               

Joan was a being so uplifted from the ordinary run of mankind that she finds no equal in a thousand years. The records of her trial present us with facts alive today through all the mists of time. Out of her own mouth can she be judged by each generation. She embodied the natural goodness and valour of the human race in unexampled perfection. Unconquerable courage, infinite compassion, the virtue of the simple, the wisdom of the just, shone forth in her. She glorified as she freed the soil from which she sprang. All men should read her story and ponder on the words and deeds of the truly ennobled warrior, who in a single year, though untaught in technical skills – unable even to read or to write – reveals in every situation the key to ultimate victory.

Winston S Churchill, A History of the English Speaking Peoples

	 


				 THE FORMAL PRELIMINARIES



               HERE begins the report of the trial held by Messire Pierre
               Cauchon, Bishop and Count of Beauvais, in a matter of faith
               against a woman named Jeanne, commonly called the Pucelle.

               To begin: the said Bishop, being in the town of Rouen in the
               year one thousand four hundred and thirty, after the
               Epiphany, which was the ninth day of the month of January, he
               had called before him the reverend fathers and masters, my
               lords Gilles, Abbot of Fécamp, doctor in theology; Nicolas,
               Abbot of Jumieges, doctor in laws; Pierre de Longueville La
               Guiffart, doctor in theology; Nicolas de Venderes, Archdeacon
               of Eu in the Church of Rouen, licentiate in laws; Raoul
               Roussel, Treasurer of the [Cathedral] Church of Notre Dame in
               Rouen, doctor in laws; Robert Barbier, licentiate in laws;
               Nicolas Couppequesne, bachelor in theology; Nicolas
               Loiseleur, master in arts, canon of Rouen; all of whom
               appeared in obedience to the order of the Bishop in the
               Council Chamber of the castle of Rouen.

               The Bishop explained to them that a woman named Jeanne,
               called the Pucelle, who was accused of invoking devils and
               other crimes, had been delivered and handed over to him from
               the Very Illustrious Prince the King of France and England;
               and that, since she had been handed over, articles concerning
               the Catholic Faith had been composed, upon which articles
               they had examined a number of witnesses, as one could see
               from the reading of the articles and the depositions of the
               witnesses who had been examined upon them. These articles and
               depositions were read in the presence of the above mentioned
               persons.

               After the reading was done, since the Grand Inquisitor of the
               Faith was not in the town of Rouen, but only his deputy was
               there, it was ordered and directed by the Bishop that the
               deputy should be called; and that in the presence of notaries
               he should be summoned to hear read the articles and
               informations which had been made concerning the crimes and
               evil-doing of the said Jeanne, and the scandal which had
               thereby arisen.

               And afterwards, by the advice of those who were present, the
               Bishop ordered that this woman should be summoned to be
               questioned in a matter of faith. This being done, all those
               present swore to keep secret everything that might transpire
               in this matter.

               THE PREPARATORY INTERROGATIONS: THE FIRST PUBLIC SESSION

               The following day, which was Wednesday the twenty-first day
               of February, in the chapel royal of the castle of Rouen, in
               the presence of the Bishop and of my lords and masters, my
               lord Gilles, Abbot of Fécamp, Jean Beaupère, Jean de
               Chatillon, Jacques le Tessier, Nicolas Midi, Gerard Feuillet,
               Guillaume Haiton, Thomas de Courcelles and Maître Richard
               Praty, were read the letters of the King of England where in
               he commanded the ordinary judges of Rouen to hand over and
               deliver the Pucelle to the Bishop to be tried. These being
               read, Maître Jean Estivet, appointed promoter at the trial by
               the Bishop, required the Pucelle to be brought and questioned
               in accordance with law, which was granted by the Bishop.

               And since Jeanne had made a supplication that she might be
               allowed to hear Mass, the Bishop said that he had consulted
               with several wise and notable persons, on whose advice he had
               come to the conclusion that, in view of the crimes of which
               she was accused, and the fact that she wore man's dress, they
               ought to defer this request: and thus he declared it. Very
               soon after, Jeanne was led in to the presence of the Bishop
               and the assessors aforementioned. She being present, the
               judge spoke to her:

                                   CAUCHON
                         Since you were taken prisoner
                         within the boundaries of my
                         diocese, and since there is common
                         report of a number of your deeds
                         which are contrary to our faith,
                         not only within the realm of France
                         but in all the states in which they
                         are known and published, and since
                         you are accused of heresy, you have
                         been handed over to me, to be tried
                         in a matter of faith.

               After these words, the Promoter [d'Estivet] showed how at his
               request she had been cited and convened to answer in a matter
               of faith, as appeared from the letters and acts which he then
               exhibited, begging that she should be adjured to speak the
               truth, and then questioned upon the accusations that he would
               deliver. This was granted by the Bishop and the court. This
               request being granted, as has been said, the Bishop caused
               Jeanne to come before him, and charitably admonished her.

                                   CAUCHON
                         You should tell the truth
                         concerning the things which will be
                         asked of you, as much for the
                         shortening of your trial as for the
                         unburdening of your conscience,
                         without subterfuge or craft;
                         and you must swear with your hand
                         on the Holy Gospels to tell the
                         truth concerning everything you
                         will be asked.

                                   JEANNE
                         I don't know what you're going to
                         question me about. You may ask me
                         things that I won't want to answer.

                                   CAUCHON
                         You will swear to tell the truth
                         about whatever you are asked
                         concerning the Catholic Faith, and
                         all else that you may know.

                                   JEANNE
                         About my father and mother and
                         about everything I've done since I
                         arrived in France I will willingly
                         swear. But as for revelations sent
                         me from God, I've never told or
                         revealed them to anyone except
                         Charles, who is my king. And even
                         if you threaten to cut off my head,
                         I still won't reveal them, for I
                         know from my visions that I must
                         keep them secret. But within the
                         next eight days I'll know if I can
                         reveal them.

                                   CAUCHON
                         I ask you to take the oath to tell
                         the truth concerning the faith.

                                   JEANNE
                             (with both hands on the
                              missal)
                         I swear that I will tell the truth
                         in all matters asked me concerning
                         the Faith. But about my
                         revelations, I will not tell
                         anyone.

                                   CAUCHON
                         What is your name and surname?

                                   JEANNE
                         I was called Jeannette at home,
                         and in France, Jeanne. I know
                         nothing about a surname.

                                   CAUCHON
                         Where were you born?

                                   JEANNE
                         In a village called Domremy de
                         Greux.

                                   CAUCHON
                         What is the name of your father and
                         mother?

                                   JEANNE
                         My father is called Jacques Tart
                         and my mother, Ysabeau.

                                   CAUCHON
                         Where were you baptised?

                                   JEANNE
                         In the church at Domremy.

                                   CAUCHON
                         Who were your godfathers and
                         godmothers?

                                   JEANNE
                         A woman called Agnes and another
                         called Jeanne were my godmothers,
                         and a man called Jean Bavent was my
                         godfather. I've heard my mother say
                         that I have other godfathers and
                         godmothers as well as these.

                                   CAUCHON
                         Who was the priest who baptised
                         you?

                                   JEANNE
                         He was called Messire Jean Minet,
                         to the best of my knowledge.

                                   CAUCHON
                         Is this Nynet still alive?

                                   JEANNE
                         Yes, to the best of my belief.

                                   CAUCHON
                         How old are you?

                                   JEANNE
                         Nineteen or thereabouts.

                                   CAUCHON
                         Who taught you faith?

                                   JEANNE
                         My mother taught me the Pater
                         Noster, Ave Maria and Credo. No one
                         apart from my mother taught me
                         faith.

                                   CAUCHON
                         Repeat the Pater Noster and Ave
                         Maria.

                                   JEANNE
                         Certainly I'll repeat them,
                         providing you will hear my
                         confession.

                                   CAUCHON
                         Repeat the Pater Noster and Ave
                         Maria.

                                   JEANNE
                         Not unless you hear my confession.

                                   CAUCHON
                         I will give you one or two notable
                         persons of this company to whom you
                         will say your Pater Noster and Ave
                         Maria.

                                   JEANNE
                         I won't say them if they won't hear
                         me in confession.  Why must I wear
                         these painful fetters on my legs?

                                   CAUCHON
                         Several times you have tried to
                         escape from your prisons, so I
                         ordered that you should be fettered
                         in order that you might be kept the
                         more securely.

                                   JEANNE
                         It's true that in the past I'd have
                         much liked to escape, as is lawful
                         for every prisoner. And if I'd been
                         able to escape, no one could say
                         I'd broken faith, because I never
                         gave my parole to anyone.

               The Bishop then addressed John Riche, John Bernard and
               William Talbot —

                                   CAUCHON
                         You will guard her strictly, and
                         not allow anyone to speak to her
                         unless with my express permission.
                         Each place your hand on the missal
                         and swear a solemn oath to do all
                         that I have ordered you to do.

               [END OF 1ST SESSION]

               2ND SESSION: Thursday, 22 February 1431

               [The following day:] In the Hall of the castle of Rouen,
               there were assembled together with the bishop, the reverend
               fathers, lords, masters and assessors. [...] In whose
               presence and in that of Brother Jean Le Maître, deputy of the
               Inquisitor of the Faith, the bishop showed how he had
               summoned and required Le Maître, as general Inquisitor of the
               Faith, to join in the trial of Jeanne, offering to communi
               cate to him everything that had been done at the trial.

               To which Le Maître answered that he was only commissioned in
               the city and diocese of Rouen and since the trial was held
               before the bishop, not as Ordinary of the diocese of Rouen,
               but as of borrowed jurisdiction he was doubtful of joining in
               the matter. And although he had been doubtful as to joining
               in the trial, nevertheless, as much in order that the trial
               should not be null and void, as for the unburdening of his
               conscience, he was content to be present at the trial since
               he had inquisitorial powers.

               This offer being made, Jeanne was first admonished and
               required to take the oath that she had taken the day before
               to tell the truth concerning all that would be asked her of
               the crimes and evils of which she was accused.

                                   JEANNE
                         I've already taken the oath and
                         that should be enough.

                                   CAUCHON
                         You are again ordered to swear to
                         tell the absolute truth
                         concerning everything that will
                         be asked of you. I assure you,
                         not even a prince could or should
                         refuse to take an oath to tell
                         the truth in a matter of faith.

                                   JEANNE
                         I did so yesterday. You're
                         burdening me too much.

               Finally she took the oath in the form in which she took it
               yesterday. The oath being taken, Bishop Cauchon ordered
               Maître Jean Beaupère to question her.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         Will you tell the truth?

                                   JEANNE
                         You might well ask me some things
                         which I'll tell the truth about,
                         and others which I won't. If you
                         were well informed about me, you'd
                         want me out of your hands. I have
                         done nothing except by revelation.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         How old were you when you left
                         your father's house?

                                   JEANNE
                         I don't know.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         Did you learn any craft or trade?

                                   JEANNE
                         Yes, my mother taught me to sew —
                         and I don't believe there's a woman
                         in Rouen who could tell me a thing
                         about it.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         Why did you leave your father's
                         house and go to Neufchateau?

                                   JEANNE
                         Mostly for fear of the Burgundians.
                         I went to Neufchateau and stayed
                         with a woman called La Rousse for
                         about a fortnight.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         What sort of work did you do there?

                                   JEANNE
                         Household jobs.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         Did you go into the fields to keep
                         the sheep or other animals?

                                   JEANNE
                         No.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         Did you made your confession every
                         year?

                                   JEANNE
                         Yes, to my own curé. And if he were
                         prevented, I confessed to another
                         priest — with my curé's permission.
                         Two or three times I've confessed
                         to mendicant friars.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         How often did you receive the Body
                         of Our Lord?

                                   JEANNE
                         Every year at Easter.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         Have you ever received the Body of
                         Our Lord at feasts other than at
                         Easter?

                                   JEANNE
                         Go to the next question.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         Tell us about the voices you claim
                         to hear?

                                   JEANNE
                         From the age of thirteen, I
                         received revelation from Our Lord
                         by a voice that taught me how to
                         behave. The first time I was very
                         frightened. That first time the
                         voice came at noon. It was a
                         summer's day, a fast day, and I was
                         in my father's garden. The voice
                         came from my right side, in the
                         direction of the church. The voice
                         was hardly ever without a light,
                         which was always in the same
                         direction as the voice. After I
                         heard it three times, I knew it was
                         the voice of an angel. This voice
                         has always taken good care of me.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         What teaching did this voice give
                         you as to the salvation of your
                         soul?

                                   JEANNE
                         It taught me how to behave. And it
                         told me that I ought to go often to
                         church. And later it told me that I
                         had to go into France.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         How often did it tell you that you
                         must go into France?

                                   JEANNE
                         Two or three times a week. My
                         father knew nothing of my going.
                         And the voice said to me to hurry
                         up and go and raise the siege of
                         Orleans, and that I should go to
                         Robert de Baudricourt, Captain of
                         Vaucouleurs, and that he'd give me
                         men to go with me, and I answered
                         that I was only a poor girl who
                         knew nothing about riding or making
                         war.
                         Then I went to an uncle's house
                         where I stayed for a week, and then
                         my uncle took me to Robert de
                         Baudricourt, who I recognized even
                         though I'd never seen him before.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         How did you recognise him?

                                   JEANNE
                         My voices told me it was him. De
                         Baudricourt twice refused to see
                         me. The third time he received me,
                         and finally gave me people to
                         escort me to France — as the voice
                         had told me.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         Why did you visit the Duke of
                         Lorraine?

                                   JEANNE
                         He asked for me to be sent to him.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         When?

                                   JEANNE
                         Before I left Vaucouleurs. I went
                         to him, and told him that I wanted
                         to be sent into France. He asked me
                         questions about his health, and I
                         told him I knew nothing. I only
                         told him a little about my journey,
                         but asked him to lend me his son
                         and some others to go with me into
                         France, and then I'd pray to God
                         for him to get better. I went to
                         him with a safe conduct, and then
                         went back to Vaucouleurs.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         When did you start wearing men's
                         clothes?

                                   JEANNE
                         When I left Vaucouleurs to go to
                         Chinon. I also took a sword which
                         de Baudricourt had given me, but I
                         had no other armour.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         Who accompanied you?

                                   JEANNE
                         A knight and four other men.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         Where did you sleep?

                                   JEANNE
                         The first night in the town of
                         Saint Urbain, where I slept in the
                         abbey.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         What route did you take?

                                   JEANNE
                         We went through Auxerre, where I
                         heard Mass in the great church.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         Did your voices go with you?

                                   JEANNE
                         Yes, I often had them with me.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         Who advised you to wear male dress?

                                   JEANNE
                         It was absolutely necessary that I
                         change my dress. Robert de
                         Baudricourt made my escort swear
                         that they would conduct me safely.
                         When we left, Baudricourt said to
                         me, "Go, and let come what may."

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         What were your revelations about?

                                   JEANNE
                         I was well assured that God greatly
                         moves the Duke of Orleans. I've had
                         more revelations about him than any
                         man in France, except my king.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         What were the letters you sent the
                         English and what did they contain?

                                   JEANNE
                         I sent letters to the English when
                         they were besieging Orleans,
                         telling them they must leave. But
                         I've heard that in these letters
                         they've altered one or two words.
                         For instance, they've put "render
                         to the Pucelle" where it should
                         have been "render to the King", and
                         where it says "body for body" and
                         "chieftain of war" — that wasn't in
                         my letters.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         Were you hindered on your journey
                         to see your king?

                                   JEANNE
                         No.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         What happened when you arrived at
                         Chinon?

                                   JEANNE
                         I got there about noon and lodged
                         at an inn until after dinner when I
                         went to see the king who was in the
                         castle. I went right into the room
                         where the king was, and I
                         recognized him among many others by
                         the advice of my voice.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         What did you tell him?

                                   JEANNE
                         That I wanted to make war on the
                         English.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         When the voice pointed the king out
                         to you, was there any light?

                                   JEANNE
                         Go on to the next question.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         Did you see an angel above the
                         king?

                                   JEANNE
                         Forgive me. Pass on to the next
                         question.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         What made your king believe that
                         you had been sent to him by God?

                                   JEANNE
                         Before he set me to work, the king
                         had several apparitions and
                         glorious revelations.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         What sort of revelations?

                                   JEANNE
                         Go to the king and he might tell
                         you, but you won't get it from me.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         What did your voices tell you?

                                   JEANNE
                         They promised me that very soon
                         after I arrived, the king would
                         receive me. My travelling
                         companions knew that the voices
                         came from God. I know for sure
                         that they saw them and knew who
                         they were. The king and several
                         of his council also heard and saw
                         the voices that came to me —
                         among others, Charles Duke of
                         Bourbon.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         What favours have you asked of your
                         voice?

                                   JEANNE
                         I've never asked for anything,
                         except the salvation of my soul at
                         the end.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         Have you ever disobeyed your voice?

                                   JEANNE
                         The voice told me that I should
                         stay at Saint Denis in France, and
                         I wanted to stay there, but the
                         captains weren't willing to leave
                         me there, because I'd been wounded
                         — otherwise I wouldn't have left.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         Where were you wounded?

                                   JEANNE
                         In the moat at Paris, but I was
                         cured within five days.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         You made an assault on Paris?

                                   JEANNE
                         I made a very great assault on
                         Paris.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         Wasn't the day you made this
                         assault a feast day?

                                   JEANNE
                         I'm not sure. Perhaps. Yes, I think
                         so.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         Do you think it a good thing to
                         make an assault on a feast day?

                                   JEANNE
                         Go on to the next question.

               These questions and answers being done, the Bishop of
               Beauvais postponed the matter until the following Saturday.

               [END OF 2ND SESSION]

               3RD SESSION: Saturday, 24th February, 1431

               [2 days later]: The following Saturday, which was the twenty
               fourth of February, those who were there the previous day
               were convoked and called together by the Dean of the
               Christendom of Rouen. The Bishop of Beauvais directed and
               admonished Jeanne to swear absolutely and without condition
               to tell the truth. Three times she was thus admonished and
               required.

                                   JEANNE
                         Please let me speak. By my faith,
                         you might ask me things I won't
                         tell you. It could be that there
                         are many things you might ask me
                         which I won't want to tell you the
                         truth about, especially concerning
                         my revelations. You might force me
                         to say something by mistake that
                         I've sworn not to say... in which
                         case I will have perjured myself —
                         which you ought not want me to do.
                             (addressing my lord of
                              Beauvais)
                         Beware of saying you're my judge,
                         for you're taking a great
                         responsibility upon yourself, and
                         you overburden me. I think it
                         enough that I've taken the oath
                         twice.

               Questioned again and again as to whether she will take the
               oath simply and absolutely, she replied...

                                   JEANNE
                         You can do well enough without it.
                         I've sworn twice, and that's
                         enough. I'm quite sure that all the
                         clergy of Rouen and Paris couldn't
                         condemn me except in error. About
                         my coming into France I'll
                         willingly tell the truth, but not
                         everything.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         You should take the advice of those
                         present as to whether or not you
                         take the oath...

                                   JEANNE
                         I've already said many times, I
                         will willingly tell the truth about
                         my coming into France, but not
                         about anything more — and I
                         shouldn't be spoken to any more
                         about this.

                                   CAUCHON
                         You will make yourself suspect by
                         your unwillingness to take the
                         oath.

                                   JEANNE
                         I've already answered you.

                                   CAUCHON
                         I order you to swear, precisely and
                         absolutely.

                                   JEANNE
                         I will willingly tell you what I
                         know, but not all. I am come by
                         God's will, and ought not to be
                         here. I demand to be sent back to
                         God, from whom I came.

               And, after again and again being ordered and required to take
               the oath, and admonished to do so on pain of being found
               guilty of the acts imputed to her:

                                   JEANNE
                         I have sworn enough. Leave it be.

               And when time and again she was admonished to tell the truth
               in what concerns her trial, it being explained to her that
               she was endangering herself...

                                   JEANNE
                         I am ready to swear and to say all
                         that I know concerning your trial,
                         but not all that I know.

               After saying which, she took the oath. These first things
               being done, she was again questioned by Maître Jean Beaupère.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         When did you last eat or drink?

                                   JEANNE
                         Yesterday afternoon.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         When did you last hear your voice?

                                   JEANNE
                         Both yesterday and today.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         At what time did you hear it?

                                   JEANNE
                         At least three times yesterday —
                         once in the morning, again at
                         vespers, and again at the hour of
                         the Ave Maria. But I hear it more
                         often than that even...

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         What were you doing yesterday
                         morning when the voice came to you?

                                   JEANNE
                         I was asleep and the voice woke me
                         up.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         Did the voice wake you up by its
                         sound, or by touching you on the
                         arms, or elsewhere?

                                   JEANNE
                         I was woken up by the voice without
                         being touched.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         Is the voice still in your room?

                                   JEANNE
                         I don't think so, but it's still
                         here in the castle.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         Didn't you thank the voice, and go
                         down on your knees?

                                   JEANNE
                         I thanked it, being seated on my
                         bed. And I joined my hands
                         together, and begged and prayed
                         that it might help and advise me in
                         what I have to do.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         How did it advise you?

                                   JEANNE
                         To answer you boldly.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         What else did the voice tell you?

                                   JEANNE
                         That I must ask advice from Our
                         Lord.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         Did it say anything before you
                         questioned it?

                                   JEANNE
                         Before I was awake, the voice said
                         several words to me that I didn't
                         understand. But when I woke up, I
                         understood that the voice was
                         telling me to answer boldly as
                         follows: "You say that you are my
                         judge; consider well what you do,
                         for in truth I am sent from God,
                         and you are putting yourself in
                         very great danger."

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         Has this voice ever changed its
                         mind?

                                   JEANNE
                         I've never found it to be in two
                         contradictory minds.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         This voice, is it an angel? or does
                         it come directly from God? or is it
                         the voice of some saint?

                                   JEANNE
                         It comes from God, but I won't tell
                         you any more in case I say some
                         thing displeasing to it in my
                         answers to you. On these questions
                         I beg that I be allowed a delay.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         Do you believe that God would be
                         displeased if you told the truth?

                                   JEANNE
                         The voices told me to say some
                         things to the king and some things
                         not. The voice told me certain
                         things that night concerning the
                         king's good — things that I wished
                         the king to know immediately — and
                         that I would drink no wine till
                         Easter, wherefore he would be
                         happier when he dined.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         Can you make this heavenly voice
                         obey you and carry a message to
                         your king?

                                   JEANNE
                         I don't know whether it would be
                         willing to obey me, unless it were
                         the will of God, and that Our Lord
                         agreed, or whether — so long as it
                         pleased God — it would be able to
                         reveal it to the king. If it could,
                         I should be very happy.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         Why can't you speak with your king
                         now as you used to do, in his
                         presence?

                                   JEANNE
                         I don't know if it is God's will.
                         If I am not in a state of grace, I
                         can do nothing.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         Did your voice reveal to you that
                         you should escape?

                                   JEANNE
                         I've yet to tell you this.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         Hasn't your voice given you advice
                         and counsel as to what you should
                         answer?

                                   JEANNE
                         If it has revealed or said
                         anything to me about this,
                         I haven't realised it.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         On the last two times that you've
                         heard your voices, has a light
                         appeared?

                                   JEANNE
                         The light comes before the voice.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         And do you see something?

                                   JEANNE
                         I'm not going to tell you
                         everything as I don't have
                         permission. And besides my oath
                         does not touch that. 
                         I can tell you that it's a
                         beautiful voice, righteous and
                         worthy — but other than that I am
                         not compelled to answer you. For
                         this reason I'd like to see, in
                         writing, the points on which you
                         want to question me.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         Can your voice see? Has it eyes?

                                   JEANNE
                         You're not allowed to know that
                         yet. There's a saying among little
                         children that people are often
                         hanged for telling the truth.

                                   BEAUPÈRE
                         Do you know if you are in a state
                         of grace with God?

                                   JEANNE
                         If I am not, may God bring me
                         there; if I am, may He keep me
                         there. If I knew that I was not in
                         a state of grace, I should be the
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