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The problem with compiling an annotated Peter Pan is knowing where to stop in terms of content.

Back in 1984, I put together a collation of Barrie's primary PP texts for the benefit of Trevor Nunn and the RSC, from which he and John Caird made their choices. It ran to over 400 pages, laid out on a double spread of A3 paper, with separate columns for "Anon: A Play", the 1904 rehearsal script, the 1905 American version, the 1911 novel, the 1921 Paramount screenplay, and the final printed play of 1928.

However, there are at least a further 5 drafts of the play between "Anon" and the 1904 rehearsal, and a further 6 drafts between 1904 and 1928. The screenplay exists in 5 drafts, and the novel in 3... and we haven't even started on PP in Kensington Gardens, nor his 400+ Fairy Notes!  Perhaps one day I will be able to hoist the different versions on this website, but there might be copyright issues (the published works may be in the public domain, but unpublished texts will become GOSH's copyright for 70 years from first publication - and quite right too!)

Those with long memories will also remember that the Beinecke Rare Book & Manuscript Library were none too keen to see their Barrie collection shared online, and as they own virtually all the originals, it couldn't really be done without their blessing as well as GOSH ...

Dear Mr. Birkin,

My Alias is James "Hook" Mayweather (My Real Name is Spencer).

I am an Independent Screenwriter working on a PETER PAN (Based/Inspired by) Project. Working on what may become a film trilogy or TV series/(miniseries (US), Serial (UK), based and inspired by Barrie's Pan, other various Drafts (Books, screenplays), etc. Including, if possible to procure a copy of, PETER PAN: THE BOY WHO HATED MOTHERS by Michael Lluberes. I should also mention, that I do not have the rights or allowance by the Great Ormond Street Hospital Children's Charity, I am solely writing this an independent project, for the time being.

I hope that this message does reach you as I saw a post with your email here on the site. I tried to use it to contact you, but, as another poster said (on a post from 2005), all it does is "Return/Pingback" without allowing it to reach you for a response. I don't know if you have an email or any other way to contact you beyond (here on the forums it would be great. To speak PAN/BARRIE that you are so extremely knowledgeable about. My ultimate goal is to make the complete PAN script featuring every line or moment from the play, books, screenplay, combined into a long, but, a complete script (using all the parts as one!)

I look forward to speaking with you and to any help, content, and the likes you might be able to offer me.

Thank you,

JAMES MAYWEATHER.
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Peter Pan / Re: original version of the play
« Last post by JamesHookMayweather on July 14, 2017, 05:04:40 AM »
The problem with compiling an annotated Peter Pan is knowing where to stop in terms of content.

Back in 1984, I put together a collation of Barrie's primary PP texts for the benefit of Trevor Nunn and the RSC, from which he and John Caird made their choices. It ran to over 400 pages, laid out on a double spread of A3 paper, with separate columns for "Anon: A Play", the 1904 rehearsal script, the 1905 American version, the 1911 novel, the 1921 Paramount screenplay, and the final printed play of 1928.

However, there are at least a further 5 drafts of the play between "Anon" and the 1904 rehearsal, and a further 6 drafts between 1904 and 1928. The screenplay exists in 5 drafts, and the novel in 3... and we haven't even started on PP in Kensington Gardens, nor his 400+ Fairy Notes!  Perhaps one day I will be able to hoist the different versions on this website, but there might be copyright issues (the published works may be in the public domain, but unpublished texts will become GOSH's copyright for 70 years from first publication - and quite right too!)

Those with long memories will also remember that the Beinecke Rare Book & Manuscript Library were none too keen to see their Barrie collection shared online, and as they own virtually all the originals, it couldn't really be done without their blessing as well as GOSH ...

Dear Mr. Birkin,

My Alias is James "Hook" Mayweather (My Real Name is Spencer).

I am an Independent Screenwriter working on a PETER PAN (Based/Inspired by) Project. Working on what may become a film trilogy or TV series/(miniseries (US), Serial (UK), based and inspired by Barrie's Pan, other various Drafts (Books, screenplays), etc. Including, if possible to procure a copy of, PETER PAN: THE BOY WHO HATED MOTHERS by Michael Lluberes. I should also mention, that I do not have the rights or allowance by the Great Ormond Street Hospital Children's Charity, I am solely writing this an independent project, for the time being.

I hope that this message does reach you as I saw a post with your email here on the site. I tried to use it to contact you, but, as another poster said (on a post from 2005), all it does is "Return/Pingback" without allowing it to reach you for a response. I don't know if you have an email or any other way to contact you beyond (here on the forums it would be great. To speak PAN/BARRIE that you are so extremely knowledgeable about. My ultimate goal is to make the complete PAN script featuring every line or moment from the play, books, screenplay, combined into a long, but, a complete script (using all the parts as one!)

I look forward to speaking with you and to any help, content, and the likes you might be able to offer me.

Thank you,

JAMES MAYWEATHER.
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Greets To All Fellow Barrie Forum Writers,

My Alias is James "Hook" Mayweather (My Real Name is Spencer).

I am an Independent Screenwriter working on a PETER PAN (Based/Inspired by) Project.

I am interested in speaking with other Pan Fans, Writers creating their own Pan based works (who are inspired by and writing works derived/based upon that which we all are indebted to from Mr. Barrie!), and Just Plain Barrie Fans.

I, myself, am currently working on what may become a film trilogy or TV series/(miniseries (US), Serial (UK), based and inspired by Barrie's Pan, other various Drafts (Books, screenplays), etc. Including, if possible to procure a copy of, PETER PAN: THE BOY WHO HATED MOTHERS by Michael Lluberes. I should also mention, that I do not have the rights or allowance by the Great Ormond Street Hospital Children's Charity, I am solely writing this an independent project, for the time being.

If someone can help me it would be an honor/privilege to speak with Mr. Birkin. I saw his email here on the site but as another poster said, "Pings back" without allowing to reach him for a response. I emailed him and it indeed Pinged back. I don't know if he has another email or way to be contacted, digitally, to speak with him about all things PAN/BARRIE.


I look forward to speaking with you all...and any help you can offer!

Pan 1953:
Captain Hook: [about to lower a bomb into Peter Pan's hideout] And now, Smee, to take care of master Peter Pan.
Mr. Smee: But, Captain, wouldn't it be more humane-like to slit his throat?
Captain Hook: Aye, that it would, Mr Smee. But I have given me word not to lay a finger, or a hook, on Peter Pan. And Captain Hook never breaks a promise.
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New to JMBarrie.co.uk? / Re: Hello ... and a question about JM Barrie's ancestors
« Last post by Brutus on June 15, 2017, 03:20:32 PM »
No problem, and no apology necessary! Good luck with your research.
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New to JMBarrie.co.uk? / Re: Hello ... and a question about JM Barrie's ancestors
« Last post by windara on June 15, 2017, 01:02:12 PM »
Thank you for the information.  :) I apologise for not being more aware of this site's purpose. I will certainly follow your suggestions. Hopefully, I can find some answers through them.

Regards
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New to JMBarrie.co.uk? / Re: Hello ... and a question about JM Barrie's ancestors
« Last post by Brutus on June 15, 2017, 12:22:29 PM »
Hello, and welcome to the forum. I'm one of the moderators on the site but am afraid you wouldn't find much information about JMB's ancestry here, as it mainly concerns his works and his relationship with the Llewelyn Davies. You might be more successful if you contacted the Kirriemuir Heritage Trust (or even the Moat Brae Trust) as they might have more information and contacts about the family, and point you in the right direction.

http://www.kirriemuirheritage.org.uk
http://www.peterpanmoatbrae.org

Over the years, there have been other people researching their family ancestry and links with the Barries, so if you scroll down the "J M Barrie" sub-section in the forum, you can read posts and questions about his genealogy, and possibly contact them via their emails.

I hope this helps. If I think of other sources, I'll post an update.



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New to JMBarrie.co.uk? / Barr
« Last post by windara on June 15, 2017, 08:58:14 AM »
Hi again

Does anyone know if any of JM Barrie's ancestors had earlier used the surname of Barr?

Many thanks
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New to JMBarrie.co.uk? / Hello ... and a question about JM Barrie's ancestors
« Last post by windara on June 15, 2017, 01:47:21 AM »
Hi

I was thrilled to find this new forum. Like many people, I am trying to find whether there any links between JM Barrie and my family. I have some research on my family tree that goes back to the early 1700s, but with so many similar names the task of finding a correlation is somewhat complicated, to say the least.

Can someone please confirm whether the following information about Barries in Kirriemuir is accurate and/or where the anomalies lie in my research:

JM Barrie's Grandfather: Alexander (b around 1783/6) - did he marry May/Mary, Marjory, Margret or Catherine?
Grandfather's siblings: James, George, Andrew, William? Anyone else?
Sibling marriages (if the siblings list is accurate):
- did James marry Jean Bryson or Secilia?
- did George marry Catherine Richardson?
- did Andrew marry Elspet?
- did William marry Mary or Margaret?

Other connections: Was there a connection to a David (1787) and Jane (1787)?

Any suggestions/comments will be very much appreciated.

Cheers and many thanks


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JMBarrie / Happy Birthday Mr Barrie !
« Last post by Larry R on May 09, 2017, 03:47:14 PM »

                                                   It was 157 years ago today !
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New to JMBarrie.co.uk? / Re: Mary Rose - Pitlochry Festival Theatre
« Last post by stephenc on May 08, 2017, 09:38:06 AM »
Hello,

Many thanks, indeed! We are looking forward to staging this production, after having done The Admirable Crichton a few years ago!

Thank you for the suggestion, I will look into that.

All the best,
Stephen 
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