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I got the book -the last year- from the "Internet Archive" site but apparently is no longer available in open access. I've been trying to download without success.

The file is not the Peter Davies edition but the american from Charles Scribner's sons / New York, and was printed in 1941. I guess Peter let the rights to Scribner because the book seems to be complete: 736 pages like the english edition.

Unfortunately the file is too big to mail (50 Mb compressed). I'm sorry  :(
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Mylord:

If you can't wait for the Mackail Book, there are free copies in PDF format in some internet sites. Just look in Google for it.

Happy New Year!  :)
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Pues sí, karlsw, yo leí el libro de Rodrigo Fresán hace tiempo y mi opinión en cuanto a la creatividad del autor y cómo ha podido influir en la historia real es que, sin duda, como escritor ha aportado algo pero solo en estilo, los hechos se ajustan casi perfectamente a la realidad. Yo diría que ha volcado su faceta creativa principalmente en todas esas menciones al Swinging London de los años ’60 con Kubrick, the Beatles, etc

De hecho, aunque Fresán, es un autor que me gusta bastante, me decepcionaron un poco esos saltos temporales, no porque no sea un recurso narrativo válido sino porque la historia de Barrie en relación con Sylvia y "los cinco" tiene una fuerza enorme y cualquier digresión le hace perder gran parte de esa fuerza. Cuando tienes un tema que atrapa al lector, me parece un error introducir distracciones. Sin embargo, como ya te digo, en lo esencial el libro respeta la historia muy bien. No me cabe duda de que Fresán ha leído "JMB and the Lost Boys" porque el punto de vista que emplea es muy similar al libro de Andrew. Habría que preguntar a Andrew si lo ha leído y cual es su opinión al respecto ya que me consta que el libro está editado en inglés porque, hace un par de años,  lo vi en Foyles, en Charing Cross Rd, con el título de “Kensington Gardens”. 

Edito porque se me había olvidado mandar un saludo (por cierto, desde Madrid) :)
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Hola amigos:
Yo soy asiduo de este foro hace cuatro o cinco años, aunque participo poco porque leo inglés sin problemas pero lo escribo con mucha inseguridad  :-[

Me alegro de encontrar hispano-parlantes (debería decir "hispano-escribientes"  ;D ) aficionados al trabajo de Barrie y disfrutando de esta página increible. Yo llegué aquí buscando un poco de información adicional, después de leer "JMB and the Lost Boys". El libro de Andrew me había conmovido profundamente y me había sorprendido por la estructura tan inteligente con la que conseguía explicar, en poco más de 300 páginas, una historia tan compleja y llena de matices. Por supuesto, conocía el talento de Andrew como guionista y director, pero no siempre un buen guionista consigue escribir un libro tan redondo, ofreciendo una información tan exhaustiva sin perder un ápice de emoción.

Lo que no podía imaginar, cuando encontré esta página, era la sorprendente cantidad de documentación que Andrew y Dafydd habían puesto a disposición de los aficionados a la obra de JMB. Puedes navegar durante meses y acceder a cartas, fotografías y documentos de todo tipo que te permiten aproximarte, con información de primera mano, tanto a Barrie y sus libros, como a la familia Llewelyn Davies.

En fin, bienvenido karlsw, espero que disfrutes tanto como sigo disfrutando yo con esta pagina. Y, Xavier, me alegro de conocerte  :) .

¡Ah! y of course, many thanks to Andrew and Dafydd.  :)
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Davies Family / Whatever happened to Peter's "Morgue"?
« on: January 15, 2012, 11:46:51 PM »
I remember I have read, some years ago, the first part of the "Morgue" in this site. There was some beautiful letters between Sylvia and Mrs. Davies (Arthur's mother) and very interesting commentaries of Peter about the family. Unfortunately, I have tried to find it without any success.

Does anyone know where to find it?
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JMBarrie / Re: Daphne du Maurier Literary Festival May 14 2011
« on: May 13, 2011, 01:39:51 PM »
I'm in Madrid so I'm afraid I can't go to your talk, but I'd like to tell you that I've enjoyed very much your book wich I purchase and read last Chistmas. Is a very fresh and humorous reading. Thank you for write it.
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JMBarrie / Re: Piers Dudgeon and "Captivated"
« on: January 20, 2011, 09:49:11 AM »
I took a look at Neverland (formerly Captivated) at my local bookstore this weekend.  He even gets pictures wrong!  The picture of Michael which Barrie had on his window overlooking the Thames is labeled as being George [note - I reread the thread and see that Andrew picked that out right away].  A picture of Sylvia when she was in her thirties is said to be her in her last illness. Such sloppiness does not produce confidence - and that is even before you get to the equally sloppy text!

The pictures in "Captivated" are not only bad labeled but another way to twist real facts to make them fit in Dudgeon's peculiar fantasy about Barrie. In the paperback edition you can see two pictures, one of them labelled "Barrie, still impish in 1920 before Michael's death". But this is one of the portraits of 1912 with Michael and Barrie dressing in fishing gear in Lissie Caswell Smith's studio.

The next is labeled "Barrie inconsolable a year later. He is wearing the Trilby hat wich -in Daphne stories- is the symbol of Svengali's hypnotic power, it's appropriator  the personification of evil.” As a matter of fact the picture is one of the taken in 1928 -not 1921- with Barrie in a roof or a balcony and a misty background. The point is not the wrong date but the fact that Barrie is wearing his classic Homburg hat, not a Trilby.

Leaving aside the stupid idea that a man with a Trilby could be the "personification of evil", I wonder what kind of "personification of evil" represents for Dudgeon a man who wears a Homburg.
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JMBarrie / Re: Honors Thesis
« on: January 19, 2011, 04:52:33 PM »
You can read what you want, every book can improve your knowledge about Barrie, even Lisa Cheney's can give you some directions -right or wrong, at last you can come to your own conclusions-.

But I agree absolutely with Jay. "Captivated", the Dudgeon's book(?) is the most disgusting crap I have read in all my life. Not only for the things he write about Barrie but the way he distorts the facts to make it serve to his "theory". It's dishonest, repulsive, literally "disgusting", Puaghh!!!

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Davies Family / Re: Mary's Death
« on: June 16, 2010, 08:43:09 AM »
Mary's Adress during her last three years was indeed 2 St Martin's Terrace, Chapeltown Road, Leeds. Currently this is the adress of a medical center. Does anyone know wheter in 1962 this was a clinic or not? Maybe a geriatric residence or a nursing center?

(once again, I beg pardon for my bad english)
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Davies Family / Re: Cynthia Asquith
« on: October 29, 2009, 12:22:52 PM »
Take a look to "Llewelyn Davies Family" / "Nico".

The letter dated 1975/12/05 from Nico to Andrew begins "I think I'll tell you now the "truth about" Cynthia Asquith..." and explain Nico's point of view about this matter.
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Davies Family / Re: Michael's Death
« on: August 31, 2007, 09:17:40 AM »
To beguin with I beg your pardon for my english. I can read without problems but I'm afraid that my writing can be plenty of incorrections.

I have been some months reading and exploring this wonderful site (thank you Andrew, it's a fantastic work and the best database I've ever seen in an Internet site).

About Michael's death I am a bit confused, mostly because the traces and the opinions of his friends and family are sometimes incongruous, sometimes contradictories, sometimes both.

Even Nico, in his letter dated Dec/21/1975 writes to Andrew:

"I've always had something of a hunch that Michael's drowning was suicide — he was in a way the "type" i.e. exceptionally clever with varying moods. He couldn't swim a yard, though Rupert Buxton with whom he drowned (also exceptionally clever) was a very good swimmer — but why did they choose a known danger spot which already had a memorial announcing a death by drowning? When "found", their arms were round each other. Most presume one went to save the other — probably correct — but which? In a strange way I would prefer it to have been intentional rather than accidental. "

But only eight days later, Dec/29/1975...

"... As for Michael's possible suicide: if I had put money on it I'd invest pretty heavily on "natural causes" "


When someone beloved dies in tragic circunstances one can spent years thinking about what really happened or what could be happened or, even worst, what could have been happened if...

Greetings fom Madrid-Spain
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