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JMBarrie / Re: The Lost Boys trilogy
« on: January 25, 2024, 08:53:59 PM »
Couldn?t agree with you more about everything you just said Hannah! There?s really nothing I need to add here, you said mostly everything that I would have said (Except my post would have been as long as a college thesis as per usual! 😂)! The Lost Boys is and always will be a masterpiece!
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JMBarrie / Re: Jean Forbes-Robertson (1905-1962)
« on: January 23, 2024, 07:58:34 PM »
Beautiful photos! ❤️
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Peter Pan / Re: Tinkerbell and Jas. Hook
« on: January 07, 2024, 08:58:11 PM »
Welcome aboard JCSalomon!
There?s people who can answer this question better than I can, but I don?t think Barrie ever changed those plot points that you mentioned.

Though Barrie?s Peter Pan will always be the best of course, there are story problems. Actually, for me, Hook finding the Home Under the Ground by accident doesn?t bother me, what does bother me is that he does not attack the house until towards the end of the play! Why would he wait? Why didn?t he and his crew attack that night while the Lost Boys and Peter (and the Darling children since they would have arrived by that point) were asleep and kill them all?
I saw that you read my post about my Peter Pan stage adaptation, and in my version, I changed Hook finding the hideout until much later in the story.

Also, I think in all the versions, the play, 1953 film, and the 2003 film, Tink does not interact with Peter again between the time of him banishing her and her saving him from the poisoned medicine. Though I could be misremembering something.
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Peter Pan / Re: Peter Pan Day
« on: December 27, 2023, 03:50:51 PM »
Happy Peter Pan Day 2023!

I hope everyone has a wonderful day!
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General topic / For Andrew
« on: December 21, 2023, 12:38:01 AM »
Andrew,
I?m posting on here because I?m guessing you?re not receiving any of my emails.
This is the only way I could think of at this point to contact you in a way that you could see it!
I would like to find a better way to contact you since the emails aren?t working.
But yes, I did get your wonderful email response to my birthday email to you, and I hope we can find a way to talk to each other soon!

-Danielle
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Davies Family / Nico Llewelyn Davies’ 120th Birthday!
« on: November 24, 2023, 05:21:40 PM »
Today is Nico’s 120th birthday!
Not long after I posted my post about the 45th anniversary of “The Lost Boys“, I realized I made a huge mistake by leaving out the most important person who passed away since the making of the miniseries!
Without Nico, there would be no “The Lost Boys” miniseries, and no “J.M. Barrie and Lost Boys” book. But even more than that, we wouldn’t have most of the information that we have about the five Llewelyn Davies brothers and Barrie’s relationship with them if it weren’t for him!
All hail to the fifth “lost boy” Nico!
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JMBarrie / Re: E;lizabeth Smart's visit to JMB
« on: October 16, 2023, 11:44:41 PM »
Thank you for sharing this Andrew!
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General topic / Re: “The Lost Boys” Miniseries’ 45th Anniversary!
« on: October 12, 2023, 01:09:57 PM »
Thank you for your reply Andrew! Much love to you! ❤️
Perhaps if you’re lucky, a crocodile in the lake may have swallowed a clock, then you will be able to hear the tick and bolt! 😉
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General topic / “The Lost Boys” Miniseries’ 45th Anniversary!
« on: October 10, 2023, 11:29:11 PM »
It’s still October 10th here in the United States, but in England, it’s October 11th, which means 45 years ago to the day, “The Lost Boys” miniseries first premiered on television!
In honor of today, I just want to say thank you to Andrew for making this series possible! This series means a lot to me and to many other people on this forum! Your research and dedication to Barrie and the five Llewelyn Davies boys was very much worth it and your wonderful talents as a writer shone through in spades with your beautiful script!
I also want to mention those who have sadly passed away who had a major contribution to the series:

Rodney Bennett (Director)

Louis Marks (Producer)

Dudley Simpson (Composer)

Tim Pigott-Smith (Arthur Llewelyn Davies)

Anna Cropper (Mary Hodgson)
 
William Hootkins (Charles Frohman)

Christopher Blake (oldest George Llewelyn Davies)

And last, but not least,
 
Ian Holm (J.M. Barrie)


Happy 45th!
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That’s so cool that you visited the graves!
RIP Michael and Rupert! ❤️
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Peter Pan / My Peter Pan Stage Adaptation
« on: May 12, 2023, 12:11:43 PM »
I’ve started writing my first draft script for my own stage adaptation of Peter Pan!
So far I’ve written five scenes and I’m starting on the sixth scene, which will be the last scene of Act One.
If you anyone would like me to send them what I’ve written so far, please let me know! I really would to like get feedback from people on this forum! I’m not only making this adaptation to satisfy me, but also my fellow Pan Fans!
To give you a bit of a hint of what I’m going for in this adaptation, you can read my review I did on Andrew’s Peter Pan 1989 film script, and I’ve used a lot of the suggestions that I made on that.
I would say, in my script, half of the dialogue is mine, and half is Barrie’s. Some of it is little Easter Eggs that are a nod to Peter Pan films or films related to Peter Pan, like The Lost Boys.
I will update you on my progress on this play as time goes on!
I would like to have it performed and even direct the show myself, and have the play published.
This play will be meant for community theatres.
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Peter Pan / Re: My Peter Pan Movies Ratings:
« on: May 10, 2023, 04:24:22 PM »
Thank you for replying Brutus!
And thank you for reading my detailed review!
Like I said in the review, I would say that you should watch Peter Pan and Wendy and form your own opinion, but the more I think about it, the movie is just so bad and so far from Barrie’s vision, that it’s not even worth watching! Especially if you’re a member of this forum!
I had hope for the at first with two main trailers, but then when the clips started getting released, that hope quickly died, and honestly, the only reason I felt I needed to watch it was to basically be the guinea pig and test out the movie and inform my fellow Pan Fans on this forum if the movie was worth watching, which of course it’s not! So yeah, skip the movie!
No, the Peter in this recent movie does not have pointy ears. But he has pointy shoes though.
The reason I gave Pan a 1 and not a 0 is really because of the performances of Levi Miller and Hugh Jackman. I honestly haven’t watched this film in years so there’s a lot I don’t remember, but I do remember their performances being good even if their characters were not. I really wish they could have been in a faithful direct adaptation film of Peter Pan as Peter and Hook!
I didn’t include Syfy’s Neverland because that’s technically not a film. Ironically, when I reviewed it on the forum back in 2020, I called it a film the entire time! It’s basically just two really long episodes of a TV show. I actually haven’t watched it since I saw it and reviewed it over 2 years ago, but I just re-read my review of the series and I do still remember some bit and pieces of it. I didn’t give an actual rating in my review, but even though my 2020 self probably would’ve given this series a 3/10, my 2023 self would agree with you and give it a 1/10. Like Pan, the 1 comes from the good performances from the actors!
2 or 3 years ago, I reviewed a bunch of Peter Pan related media for the forum, tv series, feature-length films, short films, and a stage production that either were talked about very little or not at all on this site, and that’s why I watched and reviewed Neverland in the first place. Looking back, I was way too nice in some of those reviews, and if I re-reviewed those products now, I would probably have a much more negative view on them!
As time as gone on, and as it stands currently, I’m of the opinion that if your interpretation doesn’t have Barrie’s spirit, whether you’re making a prequel, sequel, or a different interpretation of the original story, then you’re doing it wrong! And a lot of people who try to adapt the Peter Pan story in some way, get it very wrong! There are movies that aren’t related to Peter Pan in any way that are more like a Peter Pan movie than most of the actual Peter Pan movies, like Where the Wild Things Are or Song of the Sea. The GOSH Peter and Wendy movie is the only actual Peter Pan movie to capture Barrie’s spirit! Although I will give the benefit of the doubt and say that Hook comes close, at least that movie was made by somebody who actually cared about the source material! Although ironically, Spielberg hates Hook now and has pretty much disowned it!
I’m sorry this comment is so long! I’m wrapping it up!
No, I’ve never seen the Russian Peter Pan movie. At least not the whole movie. I think I’ve seen bits and pieces of it though. Is it any good? After Peter Pan and Wendy, I am in absolutely no mood to watch another bad Peter Pan movie!
Plus, right now I’m actually working on a project that I’m pretty excited about that I will talk about on this forum very soon…..
Let’s just say all these bad Peter Pan adaptations have finally broken me, but have also encouraged me to take action….😉

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Peter Pan / My Peter Pan Movies Ratings:
« on: May 08, 2023, 03:21:51 PM »
Here are my ratings of Peter Pan films, separated by direct adaptations of the book or play and prequels and sequels.
Feel free to post your own ratings of the films!

Direct Adaptations:
Peter Pan 1924- 8/10
Peter Pan 1953- 5/10
Peter Pan 2003- 3/10
Peter and Wendy (GOSH Peter Pan)- 9/10
Peter Pan and Wendy- 1/10

Prequels and Sequels:
Hook- 5/10
Return to Neverland (Direct-to-DVD sequel to the 1953 film)- 4/10
Pan- 1/10
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Peter Pan / Re: Peter Pan and Wendy Detailed Review
« on: May 05, 2023, 10:48:08 PM »
Thank you so much Andrew for reading my review!
Had other people not been around me when I first read your comment, I would have burst out laughing at what your mom said about the 2003 movie! That bit of criticism is more brutal (and more valid!) than what any professional critic could ever write! 😂😂😂😂
I would recommend that you watch the recent film and form your own opinion, but I don’t want to put you in an early grave! So you can definitely skip it! 😂
Much love to you Andrew! ❤️
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Peter Pan / Re: Peter Pan and Wendy Detailed Review
« on: May 05, 2023, 03:27:05 PM »
Except for Pete’s Dragon and this movie, Lowery, Halbrooks and Whitaker had nothing to do with these other Disney live-action remakes! Especially the other really terrible ones like Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, and The Lion King, or the upcoming Little Mermaid remake (the film hasn’t come out yet at the time I’m writing this, but it looks AWFUL!!), Disney is responsible for these movies! More specifically, the studio executives and other “people in suits” that just want to check boxes and make billions of dollars!
You may be surprised by what I’m about to say, but even though I’ve been bad mouthing Peter Pan and Wendy almost the entire review, and even though I’ve had mouthed other Disney remakes in past posts, I’m not against the concept of remaking these animated movies. What I’m against is the execution that Disney has decided to take since the beginning when Alice in Wonderland came out in 2010! Stories like Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, Alice in Wonderland, The Little Mermaid, Cinderella, Pinocchio and even Peter Pan have been retold in different ways in different mediums for hundreds, some even thousands of years!
Here are some examples of a few of these stories being retold in an interesting way in film:

Beauty and the Beast:

https://youtu.be/IsXkv1mpRUk

Alice in Wonderland:

https://youtu.be/11831Y1y7eA

Pinocchio:

https://youtu.be/Od2NW1sfRdA

And with Peter Pan there’s, of course, 2015’s Peter and Wendy!
There are thousands of ways you can adapt these classic stories, but Disney, a billion dollar company, decides to adapt these stories in the most safe and boring and ugly looking way possible! I don’t even mind if you make a little bit of changes to the story or the characters in your adaptation, as long as the changes makes sense, and the story and the characters still have the same spirit as the original stories! Obviously, Peter Pan and Wendy does NOT have the same spirit as the story or the characters of Barrie’s Peter Pan!
The only Disney live-action remake based on a classic story I really enjoyed was The Jungle Book! Though doing so less than Pete’s Dragon, that remake still did different things with its story and characters and made interesting changes, even from it’s novel counterpart, and they were changes that MADE SENSE to the characters and to the story that they were telling!
Admittedly, I’ve never read The Jungle Book novel, so I’m not completely sure if the remake still has the same spirit of the book, but I thought it was at least a good movie on it’s own, which, again, is WAY more than I can say for Peter Pan and Wendy and a lot of the other remakes!
And at the end of the day, these “suits” at Disney are the ones who are mostly the ones making these remakes, not the directors, not the writers, maybe not even the producers, but it’s the executives! David Lowery is an example of this! I’m not convinced that Peter Pan and Wendy is the Peter Pan film he wanted to make! Not after he’s made films that look great and people actually really enjoy! It’s all Disney’s fault!!
And despite the fact that I already knew that Disney was responsible for these remakes being bad before I saw Peter Pan and Wendy, I still had hope that this maybe, just maybe, might be good, maybe not excellent, but at least pretty good! And yeah, I was probably very naïve for thinking this, but I just thought, especially since Lowery was at the helm, and he made a decent Disney remake before with Pete’s Dragon, and now he’s making a Peter Pan remake, which just happened to be an adaptation of my favorite story of all time, and since it was going to be a straight-to-Disney+ movie, maybe he’d have more creative freedom than other directors who have done the theatrically released remakes, that this movie might be actually be at least decent! But I’ve seen the final result, and that was obviously NOT the case!
And now Peter Pan and Wendy has broken me! Despite the past horrible remakes, this film has broken me to never look forward to a Disney live-action remake ever again!
Before watching Peter Pan and Wendy, I was excited to see remakes of the animated movies that could actually benefit from a remake, like Sword in the Stone, which was actually announced years ago but has yet to have any more developments, and The Black Cauldron, or even Treasure Planet and Atlantis: The Lost Empire! But not anymore! Like those movies, a live-action remake of the 1953 animated Peter Pan film could have been great, at least a bit better than the animated film, but Peter Pan and Wendy turned out to be MUCH MUCH MUCH WORSE than the animated film! I’m nostalgic for the animated film since it was my first exposure to the Peter Pan story, but since I’ve become a major Pan Fan, I recognize it’s many many flaws! But besides the blatant racism in animated movie, even the flaws in that movie don’t even come CLOSE to the flaws of Peter Pan and Wendy! So an adaptation of those other animated films that haven’t had a remake made of them yet, would be just as dull as lifeless as Peter Pan and Wendy! Unless Disney improves their remakes and I hear that they made one that is actually good, then I don’t plan on ever seeing a new remake that they do ever again!
One more positive thing I do want to say is that at least Peter Pan and Wendy is about the same running time as the animated film, so at least the pain is quick! Some of the other remakes are at least a half hour longer than their animated counterparts! The upcoming Little Mermaid is going to be almost ONE HOUR longer than the animated version!
Okay, I think I’m done now! If you read all of this, you have my wholehearted gratitude! And even if you didn’t read the whole thing, you still have my wholehearted gratitude for even wanting to look at my post, even just out of curiosity!
And I want to state one last time, that if you have a different opinion about this movie, PLEASE don’t hesitate to post it on the forum and I will read it and respond to you!
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