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Peter Pan / “Peter Pan, or the Boy Who Hated Mothers” Script
« on: November 18, 2020, 02:31:34 PM »
Andrew,

I recently discovered that you wrote the play Peter Pan, or the Boy Who Hated Mothers, and it was only performed in France.

I was wondering if you were allowed to share your script on the database?
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Peter Pan / East of Kensington 2012 Short Film
« on: November 15, 2020, 01:53:11 AM »
I watched the 2012 short film East of Kensington, written and directed by Kellen Moore.

Peter Pan returns to the Darling house after their original adventures in Neverland, but suddenly he’s captured by a strange man who now lives at the Darling house.

When the stranger confronts Peter, Peter starts to question his past actions.

This film was pretty well done for what it was trying to do. It is a good and really dark little sequel to the Peter Pan story.

My only complaint is that they cast an American boy as Peter despite the fact that the film takes place in London, and I looked up the cast on IMBD and the actor that played the stranger is American but he put on a British accent for the film, why couldn’t they make Peter’s actor do the same? The filmmakers could have at least told the actor to teach himself, the actor looked as if he was 13 or 14! But other than that he was fine.

Watch the film for free on YouTube.

Link:

https://youtu.be/c4uh3spUOvg
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Peter Pan / Peter 2012 French Short Film
« on: November 14, 2020, 10:06:06 PM »
I just watched the 2012 French short film “Peter” written and directed by Nicolas Duval, and based on the 6-volume comic series “Peter Pan” by Régis Loisel.

I know very very little French so I couldn’t understand most of the dialogue, but from the visuals, I could understand the overall story.

It’s basically a prequel about how Tinker Bell, or as she’s called in French, Clochette, meets Peter Pan in London and brings him to Neverland after he’s kicked out by his alcoholic and abusive mother.
Interestingly though, in this short Peter Pan is just called Peter and Pan is a completely different character and is a satyr, not sure if he’s supposed to be the God of The Wild that Pan originally is, which is where the surname came from, and Pan is the one who tells Clochette to go to London, at least that’s what I assume he said, I don’t actually know!

Captain Hook and Smee were in the film too, but they mostly talked, so I couldn’t understand what their story was.

It’s a very short film, running at a little over 9 minutes, not including the credits, but it’s a very nice looking film! And if you can understand French, I’m sure you’ll like the film even more because you’ll understand the dialogue!

Whether you understand French or not, I’d recommend a watch since even if you don’t understand the language, the film is really short, the visuals are beautiful, and the story is quick and mostly easy enough to understand!

I would love for Duval to make a full length film version of this short!

I watched this film for free on YouTube.

Here’s the link:

https://youtu.be/330Y0CJhBaQ
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Peter Pan / Never 2009 Short Film
« on: November 14, 2020, 08:53:42 PM »
I just watched the 2009 short film “Never” written and directed by Devon Ford.

The only way I can describe this short film without spoiling anything is that it’s three segments focusing on modern versions of Tinker Bell, Captain Hook, and Peter Pan, and their stories are dark and bizarre and up to the interpretation of the viewer.

Highly recommend you watch it!

The film is available for free on YouTube.

Here’s the link:

https://youtu.be/ov1KPJ-Fpck
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Peter Pan / Never Land 2010 Short Film
« on: November 14, 2020, 07:54:11 PM »
I just watched the short film “Never Land” written and directed by Joshua Sallach.

It was a great short film! It tells a modern day retelling of the story of Peter Pan and Peter Pan is a vampire!

It’s about a vampire boy named Peter who tries to convince a hard working teenager and her vampire loving little brother, who she has to raise after their parents died, to stay with him and his band of rescued unwanted boys and leave their troubles behind. All the while, Peter is being hunted by a group of vampire slayers, whose leader is named James, or “The Captain”.

There are some dark elements in this movie. There’s this one scene I really liked where “The Lost Boys”, out of affection for Peter, are trying to collect their blood in a jar for Peter to drink! Peter actually refuses the offer as he doesn’t want to drink human blood, but it’s interesting and dark that the boys are so much on Peter’s side that they’re willing to give up their blood to satisfy him!

I highly recommend you watch it!

It’s available to watch for free on YouTube!

Here’s the link:

https://youtu.be/QPKGLoxnneQ
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Peter Pan / “Peter Pan, the Boy Who Hated Mothers” Play
« on: November 12, 2020, 06:55:50 PM »
Andrew,

I was looking on Wikipedia just now to find movie and TV adaptations of Peter Pan that I’ve never seen, and I just decided to look at the play section too, and I saw this:

“Peter Pan, the Boy Who Hated Mothers (2010), adapted by Andrew Birkin from J.M. Barrie's original various drafts of the play, novel and screenplay, first staged at the Theatre du Gymnase in Marseille in February 2010 (translated into French by Céline-Albin Faivre), broadcast on Arte TV Channel Christmas 2010.”

Does this actually exist or does it exist and you didn’t write it? Or is this whole thing, as the British say, “bollocks”?
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Peter Pan / Seeing Peter Pan Elements in Other Films or Media
« on: November 05, 2020, 07:08:21 PM »
Being a a big fan of Peter Pan, I tend to unintentionally see Peter Pan elements in other movies that aren’t centered around P.P. 
There’s a 90’s Disney Channel movie called Don’t Look Under the Bed, which actually references Peter Pan a few times, but there’s also elements of the movie about not growing up too fast and that it’s okay to be a kid at heart even though you grow old. There’s also an older boy, who’s actually an imaginary friend, who befriends but also sometimes annoys the main female protagonist. So there’s a few Peter Pan-esque elements in that movie.

There’s also this new horror movie that just came out called Come Play, ( I haven’t seen the movie, just the trailer) which is about a young autistic boy who’s basically being followed by this creature named Larry who, as the movie says, just wants a friend. The fact that there’s a creature who wants to kidnap a child so he can have a friend forever sounds like the original intention of Peter Pan back when Barrie wanted Peter to be the villain of the story.

So I want to know if anyone else finds Peter Pan elements in un-Pan related films or other media?
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General topic / Andrew’s Version of Hook
« on: November 04, 2020, 09:53:31 PM »
Andrew,

Just read the part of you mentioning that you wrote your own version of the movie Hook before Spielberg made the film! Would love if you shared the script if you still have it and it’s legal to do so, or you could just share the summary of what the story of the movie was! A movie about Barrie becoming Captain Hook sounds very interesting, so I’m very interested to know the story and direction you came up with for that concept!
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JMBarrie / Deleted Scenes of The Lost Boys?
« on: November 04, 2020, 09:44:29 PM »
Are there any deleted scenes of The Lost Boys that were filmed but not put into the final product?
I already know the beginning with JMB as a little boy with his mother and sister was never filmed. But also in the script there are little sections of scenes that I’m wondering were they ever filmed.

There’s the scene with George and Barrie when they are at Black Lake Cottage and George says that he loves Barrie and wants to be with him more than his parents, then George holds his hand while looking at a woodpecker.

And there’s a scene where Barrie finds that George bought The Little White Bird before going to fight in the war.

There’s also the scene where Michael comforts Barrie after Barrie reads George’s last letter to him.

There are a few more scenes like this, but I’m just curious if in general if there were scenes that were filmed but got cut or were they cut before they were ever filmed?
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JMBarrie / Newly Discovered Letters from JMB to Robert Louis Stevenson!
« on: October 25, 2020, 09:57:32 PM »
I just now discovered this recently published article!

https://amp.theguardian.com/books/2020/oct/25/lost-letters-reveal-jm-barrie-and-robert-louis-stevensons-mutual-affection
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Peter Pan / Peter and Wendy movie and Come Away
« on: October 18, 2020, 03:49:21 PM »
Has anyone seen the Peter and Wendy movie from 2015? Is it any good? Also I’ve seen the recent trailer for Come Away which is a movie about a young Peter and Alice from Alice in Wonderland as siblings and I think it seems like it should be pretty good! What do you guys think?
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Davies Family / Letters to The Boys’ Children
« on: October 03, 2020, 03:52:40 PM »
Andrew,
In one of the letters to you from Polly, it says she had a letter from JMB to Peter’s son Rivvy. I assume he wrote to the other children of the surviving Davies’ boys that were old enough to read or at least appreciate being sent letters, so that would mean Rivvy, possibility George Jr., Timothy, Jane, and Laura. Are there any of these letters that survived?
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JMBarrie / Did Gerrie Dislike JMB?
« on: September 19, 2020, 03:21:48 AM »
Did Gerrie dislike JMB? By sound of it in her interviews, she didn’t seem to care for JMB at all and didn’t want him around her family much, which is why he had no influence on Jack’s children and didn’t seem to be around them much. And if she did dislike JMB, I wonder why?
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Database / Pictures for Database
« on: September 04, 2020, 10:15:33 PM »

I recently got some books that are connected to JMB, and I will continue to get more, and I was wondering how I can send pictures of interesting things I find in these books so they can be posted on the database for all to see?

One of them is The Letters of JMB, and there are wonderful letters in the book that everyone should read! Like his letters to one of his godsons Peter Scott, and the letters to Peter’s mother Kathleen.
Also Barrie mentions Michael Davies in various letters, that are not even in Andrew’s book, that I think people would definitely be interested in seeing!
Also I just really recommend you get this book! It’s so great!

Also I got the books The Flying Carpet and The Treasure Ship where Barrie contributed stories basically writing about Michael, but calling the character Neil.
Neil and Tintinnabulum, the story in The Flying Carpet, is mentioned in Andrew’s book a lot, but The Blot on Peter Pan, from The Treasure Ship, isn’t mentioned at all and I didn’t know existed until I read Mackail’s biography, and this story definitely confirms that Neil is meant to be Michael Davies!

So it would be great if these things were on the database for everyone to read!
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General topic / John Michael Asquith
« on: September 04, 2020, 04:35:17 PM »

What happened to John Michael Asquith?
I read recently that he had some sort of disability. Did he have autism? Was he sent away to a hospital or an asylum, the unfortunate case for autistic people back then?
And John died in May 1937, a month before JMB, at age 26. How did he die?
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