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Peter Pan / Re: A Peter Pan problem (bibliographical)
« on: February 17, 2016, 10:15:50 AM »
It is confusing, I agree! You are  correct in the chronology:
- 1911: JM Barrie's Peter and Wendy
- 1915: first authorised abridgement by May Byron entitled Peter Pan & Wendy (incidentally, the first time this title was used)

This was followed by:
- 1921: May Byron's version published with illustrations by Mabel Lucie Attwell still entitled Peter Pan & Wendy

- To complicate matters, there was also a retelling of the play by Daniel O'Connor in 1907, originally entitled The Story of Peter Pan, published by G Bell & Sons (with Barrie's approval) with illustrations by Alice B Woodward. This is a very different text from Barrie's novelisation or Byron's version but often reprinted nowadays under the title Peter Pan (and misattributed to Barrie). (May Byron's version is also sometimes nowadays misattributed to Barrie in modern editions, by the way.)

Zipes has his facts wrong: the authorised school edition (with F D Bedford's illustrations) was not published by Henry Frowde, but Humphrey Milford at Oxford University Press in 1915. I believe this is an adapted version of JM Barrie's text, as its foreword states "this is the story of the play that has been arranged for school use". It contains 10 chapters, with the same headings as Barrie's 1911 novel, but leaving out 7. (By the way, Henry Frowde was the publisher of Peter Pan's ABC illustrated by Flora White, which only has a few lines of text.)

I have a copy of Tir na Deo but always assumed it was May Byron's text because of the Mabel Lucie Attwell illustrations so it's interesting to hear the Irish version is actually different! I think you're probably right in thinking the translator abridged and adapted the story even more, and no-one minded (or noticed).

Will you therefore be publishing a new edition of Tir na Deo 's 1938 text, or a new translation based on the original? As far as I can see, there has never been an Irish translation of Barrie's own Peter & Wendy, which is a shame as none of the other adaptations start with the classic "All children, except one, grow up".

Will you be including illustrations, either by Attwell or Bedford (both still in copyright) or another artist?

If you wanted to discuss this further or have more details of the editions held in our records, feel free to contact me at peterpan@gosh.org.

Christine
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Peter Pan / Peter & Wendy (TV film)
« on: December 20, 2015, 09:54:04 AM »
The new adaptation of the story of Peter Pan will air on ITV on Boxing Day (26 December) at 8pm. This is a retelling of the classic story for the modern age, while remaining faithful to the spirit of Barrie's original tale, and it's the first time a film version places Great Ormond Street Hospital at the heart of the story. 

The story starts at GOSH, where 12-year-old Lucy Rose is awaiting treatment for a serious heart condition and discovers Barrie's novel Peter and Wendy.That night she dreams herself off to Neverland...

Stanley Tucci plays the triple role of the surgeon, Mr Darling and Captain Hook, Laura Fraser is Mrs Darling/Lucy's mum, Paloma Faith is Tinker Bell, and newcomers Hazel Doupe and Zac Sutcliffe play the title roles.

Tune in this Boxing Day if you are in the UK. (Overseas viewers will have to wait a little longer for it to come to them, but it will be worth the wait.)
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JMBarrie / New plaque to Barrie in Bloomsbury
« on: November 30, 2015, 06:41:53 PM »
A new blue plaque was unveiled on 30 November 2015 on Downing Court, on the corner of Grenville Street and Bernard Street (WC1), commemorating Sir J M Barrie's connection with Bloomsbury. Barrie lived in lodgings on the site in his early years in London, and the house that used to stand at 8 Grenville Street (now the site of Downing Court) was the inspiration for the Darlings' home, where Peter Pan flew in to meet Wendy. The plaque was unveiled by David Barrie, great-great-nephew of Peter Pan's creator and put up thanks to a campaign by the Marchmont Association, with the support of Downing Court residents.

This is the third plaque put up to commemorate Barrie's life in London, and the first in Bloomsbury (apart from the memorial tablets at Great Ormond Street Hospital).The other plaques are at 100 Bayswater Road in Bayswater, opposite Kensington Gardens (where he wrote the play Peter Pan) and at the Adelphi, off the Strand (where he wrote the novel Peter and Wendy).

As Barrie himself described the Darlings' home in the first scene of the play:

"The night nursery of the Darling family, (...) is at the top of a rather depressed street in Bloomsbury. We have the right to place it where we will, and the reason Bloomsbury is chosen is that Mr Roget once lived there. So did we in days when his Thesaurus was our only companion in London; and we whom he has helped to wend our way through life have always wanted to pay him a little compliment, The Darlings therefore lived in Bloomsbury.

It is a corner house whose top window, the important one, looks upon a leafy square
(Ed. Note: this is Brunswick Square) from which Peter Used to fly up to it, to the delight of three children and no doubt the irritation of passers-by."
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Peter Pan / Re: Can Peter Pan die?
« on: September 16, 2015, 07:22:51 PM »
Interesting subject! However, I don't remember reading anywhere that he may be a dead or unborn child, or even hint at that. In the novel, it is said that "when children died he went part of the way with them, so that they should not be frightened" but that's the only reference to dead children I could think of.

Peter Pan was never created as an immortal character, but a child who will not grow up and who wants to remain a boy forever, which is quite different. Eternal youth is not the same as eternal life. He is prepared for death, as we see in the scene on Marooners' Rock and during the fight with Hook, and death does not scare him.

In the play, Barrie refers to the "riddle of his being", which I take to mean his refusal to grow up and accept adulthood (and fear of it). Indeed, "if he could get the hang of the thing, his cry might become 'To live would be an awfully big adventure!'."

In other words, I do believe Peter Pan can die... These are just my own thoughts on the subject, but others may have other ideas!
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Peter Pan / Re: "Peter Pan" / "Peter and Wendy" in German
« on: September 07, 2015, 07:57:20 AM »
No apology required - your English is excellent!

I will have a look at the German editions held in the collection of Peter Pan books held at GOSH, although we probably wouldn't have anything much pre-1929, when Barrie gifted Peter Pan to the hospital. Please email me at peterpan@gosh.org so that I can reply direct to you from my work address.
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Peter Pan / Re: New graphic novel of Peter Pan
« on: July 17, 2015, 07:45:22 AM »
Officially published last week! Great review on Amazon http://www.amazon.co.uk/J-M-Barries-Peter-Pan-Graphic/dp/1780272901.

If you are around Bloomsbury on Wednesday 22 July, come and meet the artist Stref (Stephen White) at Great Ormond Street Hospital, where you will also be able to buy your copy of this amazing new version of Peter Pan and get it signed (between 11-12).
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JMBarrie / Re: J.M. Barrie blue plaque funding appeal
« on: July 04, 2015, 02:15:16 PM »
A very worthwhile proposal! It will be great to see Barrie commemorated in Bloomsbury, where he lived for many years when he first came to London, before his marriage and move West to South Kensington and Bayswater. The house itself is no longer there, but the "leafy square" still is.
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General topic / MOVED: J.M. Barrie blue plaque funding appeal
« on: July 04, 2015, 02:08:25 PM »
This topic has been moved to JM Barrie for better impact.

http://www.jmbarrie.co.uk/msgbrd/index.php?topic=2440.0
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JMBarrie / Re: JM Barrie
« on: July 04, 2015, 02:06:35 PM »
Thanks for the information. I will definitely look out for it next time I'm in (or near) Dumfries.

As for the verification questions, other people have had problems too so I'll report it to the administrators.
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Peter Pan / Re: New Peter Pan TV film
« on: June 19, 2015, 07:12:44 AM »
The film is still in production so it's too early to say when and where it will air in the US but the producers will no doubt try and place it with one of the US channels. I'm sure it will also be released as a DVD eventually, so watch this space.
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Peter Pan / New graphic novel of Peter Pan
« on: June 08, 2015, 01:54:50 PM »
Birlinn Publishers from Edinburgh are launching a Peter Pan graphic novel later this month, illustrated by Stephen White and coloured by Fin Cramb, the first ever published in the UK. It's been faithfully and lovingly adapted from Barrie's original play and novel, and references Barrie's and Peter Pan's roots in Scotland as well as dotting the book with visual clues throughout. It's an amazing book, and a must for all Peter Pan and Barrie fans.

http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/books/man-behind-the-first-ever-peter-pan-graphic-novel-1-3788541
http://www.birlinn.co.uk/Peter-Pan-The-Graphic-Novel.html
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JMBarrie / Re: JM Barrie
« on: May 19, 2015, 03:18:49 PM »
Great that you found it! I had tried to find out more about it, but no luck.

Does the ruined castle have a name? Next time I'm in Dumfries, I'll look out for it.
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Peter Pan / New Peter Pan TV film
« on: May 17, 2015, 09:23:42 AM »
A new TV film has been announced, to be aired on ITV later this year! This exciting new drama is a re-imagining of the classic story, but with a twist - and with Great Ormond Street Hospital playing a part! Stanley Tucci will play Captain Hook, Laura Fraser is Mrs Darling and Paloma Faith Tinker Bell, with newcomers Zac Sutcliffe as Peter and Hazel Doupe as Wendy.
http://www.gosh.org/news/latest-news/2015-archive/new-itv-drama-peter-and-wendy-based-novel-peter-pan-jm-barrie
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Peter Pan / Regent's Park Open Air Theatre production of Peter Pan
« on: April 28, 2015, 03:20:00 PM »
The Open Air Theatre at Regent's Park in London is putting up a new production of the play from 15 May till 14 June.  This is going to be the first chance in 35 years to see Barrie's original play in London! There is going to be one difference though: it is set in 1914, not only to commemorate the centenary of WW1, but also in memory of George Llewelyn Davies, killed in action in 1915.

It will be very interesting to see how they will make Peter Pan and the Darling children fly in an open air theatre, and let's hope the rain stays away for this Neverland.

https://openairtheatre.com/production/jm-barries-peter-pan
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JMBarrie / Re: Can you help me to find JM BARRIE's biography?
« on: September 19, 2014, 02:20:42 PM »
Hi Rizqia

Great subject to research. The best book (in my view) on JM Barrie, his relationship with the Llewelyn Davies boys and the genesis of Peter Pan is Andrew Birkin's JM Barrie and the Lost Boys published by Yale University Press. There is also a biography by Lisa Chaney, Hide-and-Seek with Angels, a Life of JM Barrie published by Arrow Books (paperback) or Hutchinson (hardback), which is OK. There are many books on Barrie on the market but I believe these are the best and are easily obtainable online. Good luck with your studies and research.
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