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Peter Pan / Re: Disney’s Peter Pan and Wendy
« on: January 03, 2021, 08:16:01 AM »
Somehow, I doubt that will make any difference to Disney's version. The new film will just be a live action reboot of the animated film, updated in places to be more politically correct.
General topic / Re: Hook Deleted Scene
« on: December 18, 2020, 06:02:24 PM »
Yes, I agree that Hook is disappointing, but as you say, Spielberg did acknowledge the source material - in his own way. I think it's worth noting that not only did care about the original story, but he also cared about Barrie's legacy. When he visited Great Ormond Street Hospital prior to making the film, he was so moved by their work, and so taken by the story of Barrie's gift of copyright, he personally donated $1m to the hospital.
Peter Pan / New Peter Pan audio adaptation on BBC at Christmas
« on: December 18, 2020, 10:52:02 AM »
The BBC is broadcasting a brand new play adaptation of Peter Pan this Christmas Eve, starring Kenneth Branagh (as Hook), Olivia Colman, Sharon D. Clarke, Jane Horrocks, Jason Flemyng and many more. It will also be available for download on 20 December. All proceeds will go to Great Ormond Street Hospital Children's Charity. Not to be missed!
General topic / Re: Peter Pan Statue in Edgmont Park, Brussels
« on: December 12, 2020, 05:30:29 PM »
The statue in Egmont Park is definitely still there. It was restored a few years ago, not only from the damage caused by bullets in WW2 but Peter's pipe was replaced after it was stolen. It's not strictly speaking a replica, but the first full-size cast from the original mould by George Frampton himself. It was donated in 1925 by the sculptor as a memorial to the friendship between the two countries during the First World War. It is now listed as a Belgian national monument.

There are 5 other casts located in: Liverpool, US, Australia and two in Canada but these were commissioned by the cities, not donated by Frampton - so the one in Brussels is special!

According to George du Maurier's online biographies, he also lived in Malines as well as Brussels, but no actual address is given.
Peter Pan / Re: Disney’s Peter Pan and Wendy
« on: December 12, 2020, 03:03:20 PM »
I don't think I'll watch the new film either, as I was never a fan of the first one. But Disney will most probably sanitise the references to Native Americans and make their portrayal more politically correct (quite rightly). Also, I bet Wendy will be more feisty and less "motherly" than in the animated version. Moving with the times!
General topic / Re: Checking addresses
« on: December 12, 2020, 02:55:52 PM »
I've never heard of 15 Bayswater Road in connection of either Barrie, the Llewelyn Davies or the du Maurier's.

Barrie and Mary Ansell first lived in South Kensington (Gloucester Road) before moving to 100 Bayswater Road. Before his marriage, Barrie lived in various rooms at different addresses (mostly in Bloomsbury), but I've never come across 15 Bayswater Road.

George du Maurier and his family lived in Bloomsbury before moving to Hampstead. Gerald du Maurier lived in Regent's Park before moving to Hampstead.

Arthur and Sylvia Llewelyn Davies did live at 18 Craven Terrace when they first married and their first son George was born there. It was a house then, but it has probably been converted to flats now. They then moved to 31 Kensington Park Gardens and later at No 23 before moving out of London to Birkhamsted. After Arthur's death, Sylvia and the boys moved back to London, to 23 Campden Hill Square.

The initials JMB were etched onto the glass pane of a dining room window in the Harris Hotel in the Western Isles. You can see a photo on the database, and read more about it.

General topic / Re: Movies Based on J.M. Barrie’s Other Plays
« on: December 11, 2020, 02:58:13 PM »
There are quite a few film adaptations of his plays - although not recent ones - starting with A Kiss for Cinderella , a silent movie from 1925

Quality Street was adapted twice, the first time in 1927 with Marion Davies and the second in 1937 with Katharine Hepburn. The latter incidentally also starred in The Little Minister but of course that was a novel, not a play.

The Admirable Crichton was made into a film with Kenneth More in 1957 - the only one I've seen, and it's pretty cringingly awful - and very dated now.

The Old Lady Showed her Medals was loosely adapted in a film (Seven Days Leave) starring Gary Cooper in 1930.

I remember seeing an adaptation of The Twelve Pound Look  for the BBC many years ago, which was very good. There was also a silent movie from the 1920s but I've never seen that.

They are the only ones I can think of at the moment. The one I'd like to see on screen is Dear Brutus, one of my favourite plays, but no luck so far. There was a very good radio adaptation on the BBC a while back.
Peter Pan / Re: A Proper Peter Pan Sequel
« on: December 01, 2020, 04:50:48 PM »
There are many sequels to Peter Pan, some authorised, others not, a lot are self-published or fan fiction (and usually pretty bad...) but none are actual sequels, just another adventure, usually without keeping to the spirit of Barrie, and adding lots of magic or fairy stuff. Peter Pan in Scarlet is beautifully written, but it isn't what I would call a proper sequel.

Disney's Return to Never Land is set during WW2 which doesn't make sense, period-wise, and is over sentimental.

It's the same problem with prequels, or origin stories: they bear no connection with Barrie's vision or his original story (Peter Pan in Kensington Gardens and don't even try to tie them in.

I keep hoping someone will do it, without making Peter into another Dickensian or Harry Potter-ish character.
Peter Pan / Re: «Jas Hook at Eton» 1925 manuscript version vs 1927 speech
« on: November 14, 2020, 09:44:03 PM »
I don't think this question has ever been discussed on this forum and wasn't aware the story could have changed between the intended publication in the anthology and the actual speech at Eton. It is quite possible since Barrie often revised and rewrote his plays and other works. There's no mention of this in Denis Mackail's biography, which is normally very detailed.

If the NY Library holds the early manuscript, I wonder if one could get a copy? It'd be interesting also to check whether the Beinecke holds a manuscript version of the speech. Would anyone know?
Peter Pan / Re: Syfy channel "Neverland" Miniseries
« on: November 14, 2020, 09:33:43 PM »
As you say, it's not as bad as Pan, but I found it pretty awful too. It was so far from Barrie's vision that it was risible. Oliver Twist channelling Harry Potter, and confusing plot lines which just didn't make sense. There's nothing wrong with creating a prequel, but I just wish someone would use Barrie's material (from Peter Pan in Kensington Gardensto create something more in tune with the original story of Peter Pan. It doesn't have to be over-sensational and fantastical, and please - not Peter Pan as an orphan/hero who saves the world. He's just a boy, selfish and mischievous, adventurous and daredevil, but capable of heroism and empathy.
Peter Pan / Re: Favorite Audio of Peter Pan
« on: November 14, 2020, 09:23:20 PM »
As you say, there are many audio versions of Peter Pan. Be aware that many versions are abridged so first of all, I would look for an unabridged recording. Then check who the reader is as the reader's voice is so important.  I can recommend Samuel West and Jim Dale for instance.

The BBC version has an excellent cast but it is dramatised so would not have the full text. But it's good.

Hope this helps!
Peter Pan / Re: “Peter Pan, the Boy Who Hated Mothers” Play
« on: November 13, 2020, 09:03:59 AM »
It does exist, and indeed was written by Andrew, a great take on the story. Unfortunately, it's only been performed in France but perhaps Andrew could upload the script on the database?
Peter Pan / Re: Peter and Wendy movie and Come Away
« on: October 19, 2020, 09:14:43 PM »
Exactly. Pan was such a mish-mash of ideas it made absolutely no sense at all, visually and intellectually. A waste of Hugh Jackman in my opinion!
Peter Pan / Re: Peter and Wendy movie and Come Away
« on: October 19, 2020, 05:34:47 PM »
I saw when it was broadcast on TV. I liked it very much and liked the way the film intertwined the story of a patient at Great Ormond St Hospital with the story of Peter Pan, as she dreams herself in the latter. Stanley Tucci was excellent as Capt Hook - but I wasn't very keen on Paloma Faith's Tinker Bell.  The children actors were great. I also liked the way the girl/Wendy re-imagined Tiger Lily as a princess from India, because that's the way she interpreted "Indian princess". I thought the way they worked the scene of Tink being revived by people believing in fairies was very clever and very moving. This adaptation is also much darker than the Disney version (not difficult) and the 2003 film, and closer to Barrie's  spirit. You can view the trailer on YouTube and the DVD is available.

I'm wondering what the Disney remake is going to be like? It will obviously follow its own storyline and will have Peter as an elf with pointy ears rather than a normal boy.

I had a look at Come Away trailer and agree with you. It looks good and an interesting angle! I hope they don't do a "Pan" and reimagine a completely unbelievable origin story (with shades of Harry Potter & Dickens) that bears no relation to Barrie's vision!
Davies Family / Re: Yellow Week at Stanway!
« on: September 13, 2020, 08:50:25 AM »
Unfortunately, that wouldn't work. It's already been taken down from YouTube for copyright infringement so any other sharing website, including this one,  would have the same issue.
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