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Davies Family / Re: Jack’s children
« on: December 01, 2019, 09:50:58 AM »
Sylvia (Jack's daughter) never married. She raised Henrietta as a single mother, working in advertising (she came up with the slogan “Cheese Please, Louise”). According to Henrietta, her (unnamed) father was in the Guinness Book of Records as 'Britain's Most Married Man': he married seven times but never married her mother, who came between numbers 3 and 4.
(Source: interview by Jeanette Winterson in The Times, 19 June 2003)
Davies Family / Re: Jack’s children
« on: November 27, 2019, 04:07:01 PM »
I'm not sure what Timothy LD died from but his sister Sylvia died in 1969 of breast cancer. Timothy didn't have any children but Sylvia had one daughter, Henrietta (born 1954), who died in 2011. Henrietta's death was either suicide or drug overdose.
Davies Family / Re: Jack’s Naval Career
« on: November 22, 2019, 10:34:30 PM »
Jack joined the Navy in 1910, the year Sylvia died (p429 of Denis Mackail's biography).
Peter Pan / Re: Was Tinker Bell always called Tinker Bell
« on: October 24, 2019, 01:51:43 PM »
Tink has indeed always been there, and was certainly not given her name until she was animated! In the original manuscript of the play, she was a fairy called Tippy or Tippytoe but by the time the play was first performed in 1904, she was definitely Tinker Bell (Tink for short), an ordinary fairy tinker who mended pots & pans. Barrie did make changes to the play but Tink always featured, although not in any human form: she was "played" by a darting light and "voiced" by ringing bells. The final version of the play as written by Barrie was published in 1928. Tink also featured in the novel published in 1911, and in some of the early illustrated editions of the novel, not just as a dancing light.

I don't know where you're based, but copies of the novel are quite easy to find in the UK and US (and other English-speaking countries) as the original work has been reprinted many times over the years by all major publishers - although make sure it's the unabridged version by Barrie, not the abridged version by May Byron, or adapted by Daniel O'Connor (and others). You can also find it as an ebook on Project Gutenberg ( and on this site in the database.

As for the play, again, depending on where you live: the play is still in copyright in the US but copies of editions published in the 30s and 40s can be bought on sites such as eBay or Abebook (look out for 'Uniform edition of the play' published by Scribner's in the US or Hodder & Stoughton in the UK). Sometimes used copies of the acting script published by Samuel French can also surface on eBay.

Hope this helps!
Davies Family / Re: Location of George’s death
« on: September 25, 2019, 06:44:33 PM »
See page 243 in Andrew Birkin's book:
"The battalion was advancing to drive the Germans out of St. Eloi [Sint Elooi in Flemish]... George was sitting on a bank with the others.. & died almost immediately. It was impossible to comply with his wishes and bury him there, [so] they took him and buried him in a field on the left of the road ... outside Voormezele ... and they took a lot of trouble making the grave look nice, & planting it with violets."  His body was subsequently reburied in the British War Cemetery in Voormezele, so he almost got his wish.

Hope this helps. Do let us know how the grave looks when you visited.
JMBarrie / Re: The Cause of Barrie's Impotence
« on: September 23, 2019, 06:44:17 PM »
We don't know whether he was actually impotent or simply did not have any sexual desires, which are two different things) but I wouldn't want to hazard a guess as to the cause of it.  We do know for certain that he wasn't suffering from Psychosocial Dwarfism, because there is no evidence he was malnourished as a child - by all accounts, the family lived well, if frugally perhaps but that would be normal for members of the Scottish Free Kirk. More to the point, he was not a dwarf as he measured 5 ft 3 1/2 in (161 cm) - a short stature for a man by today's standards, but it would not have been considered extremely short at the time.

By the way, mumps do not cause impotence, although it can affect a man's fertility, and I've never heard that scarlet fever can cause it.
JMBarrie / Re: JM Barrie’s will
« on: September 23, 2019, 06:21:19 PM »
I doubt very much that at his age, like you say, he left a will - or had any assets for that matter. Anything that he had would have gone to his next of kin, i.e. his surviving brothers.
JMBarrie / Re: JM Barrie’s will
« on: September 19, 2019, 10:15:30 AM »
According to the probate entry, JMB left an estate valued at £173,467 9s. 5d. A tidy sum for the times.
Davies Family / Re: Oxford County Coroner's records
« on: August 29, 2019, 09:41:00 AM »
I agree with Nicholas. Why would the University try desperately to cover up the incident? I'm pretty sure there have been far worse 'scandals' to worry about and neither Michael nor Rupert were famous in some way or another. It's not as if a member of the royalty was involved, and drownings are not rare occurrences. Moreover, why would Rupert want to kill Michael? There were several witnesses who confirmed they met Rupert and Michael on the way to the pool and they were both in a cheery mood.

The pool was well known for being dangerous for inexperienced swimmers because of its depth and treacherous whirlpools. Still today (especially during a heatwave), we hear of young people drowning in lakes, ponds, reservoirs, despite warnings, as they underestimate the power of the water and overestimate their swimming abilities.

Piers Dudgeon has his own agenda in pursuing these conspiracy theories, as he seems bent on blaming the 'curse' of JMB for all the ills that befell the LD family. I suppose his sensational alleged 'findings' (a regurgitation of other people's research to fit his own theories) do sell books, and in that sense, his books are just like tabloid papers.
JMBarrie / Re: Various locations
« on: August 25, 2019, 11:32:56 AM »
More uploads, this time with pictures of the house and offices in Nottingham where JMB worked in 1883-4, and a picture of the house in Grenville Street, Bloomsbury, where he had lodgings when he first arrived in London in 1885.
JMBarrie / Re: Various locations
« on: August 22, 2019, 04:32:01 PM »
I've uploaded more pictures, this time of the Pet Cemetery in Hyde Park (mentioned in The Little White Bird), as well as the graves of the Llewelyn Davies and the du Mauriers in the churchyard of St John-at-Hampstead.
JMBarrie / Roses in December
« on: August 20, 2019, 02:52:57 PM »
For those of you interested, here is the full text of the poem by Geoffrey Anketell Studdert-Kennedy, Roses in December, quoted in JMB's St Andrew's address Courage (and often misattributed to Barrie).

God gave His children memory
That in life's garden there might be
June roses in December.
But sin the Father's goodness scorns,
And weaves of them a crown of thorns,
That wounds when they remember.
Sharp, stabbing points of vain regret
Around my soul forever set,
Turn June into December.
Ah, Christ, Who wore my crown of thorns,
Have mercy on the heart that mourns,
Forgive, when I remember.

For more information on its author, see his Wikipedia page
JMBarrie / Various locations
« on: August 20, 2019, 01:28:23 PM »
Apart from Leinster Corner, I have also added to the database photos of various locations linked with JMB: Lilibank and Strathview in Kirriemuir, Victoria Terrace in Dumfries, Limepots in Forfar, Cudlow House in Rustington.

Also uploaded are photos of Mary Ansell's house in Biarritz where she lived until her death, and pictures of her grave in Biarritz's cemetery.
JMBarrie / Leinster Corner
« on: August 20, 2019, 11:18:31 AM »
I have uploaded photos I took a few years ago of Leinster Corner, inside and out, with the then current owners' permission.

JMB and Mary Ansell moved to Leinster Corner, a now Grade II listed Regency semi-detached villa, in 1905 and lived there until their divorce in 1909. Mary Ansell had the walls of the rooms downstairs knocked down to create a large sitting room area, and installed a glass veranda overlooking the garden. The Art Nouveau fireplace came from Glasgow.

In the 1920s, the house was bought by Kathleen Bruce, widow of Captain Scott, and her second husband Edward Hilton Young (later Baron Kennet) and their descendants lived there until 2015, when it was sold after Lady Young's (Kathleen Young's daughter-in-law) death.  Peter Scott, the renowned ornithologist and conservationist, was brought up here. The house has since been refurbished and altered by the new owners.

Since the Young family no longer live there, I am able to share these photographs.

JMBarrie / Re: Barrie’s stamp and coin trick
« on: August 19, 2019, 07:48:56 AM »
All the houses where he lived in London (Gloucester Road and more recently Leinster Corner and Adelphi Terrace) and the LD's house in Campden Hill Square have been completely renovated, several times in some cases. Marks on the ceiling are not the same as a signature so it's very unlikely they would have been kept.
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