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Peter Pan / Peter Pan graphic novel
« on: December 05, 2012, 03:02:09 PM »
There is a project underway to adapt Peter & Wendy and Peter Pan in Kensington Gardens into a graphic novel.  The creator Renae De Liz is a talented artist with a good track record, so I am very much looking forward to it.  She is currently running a campaign on to raise the funds for it (as illustrating a graphic novel requires a full-time commitment to get done in a reasonable amount of time).
Peter Pan / Re: Peter Pan on Stage and Screen - New book
« on: October 02, 2011, 01:36:15 PM »
Why does it cost $45?
Books are priced (in part) based on the size of their expected audience.  If the publisher thinks there could be a million people out there who'd be interested in buying it, they might price it @$4.50, but if that maximum potential market is merely in the thousands, they might need to price it @$45 to make enough money to pay the author.
Peter Pan / Re: Is PETER PAN in the public domain?
« on: October 02, 2011, 01:29:53 PM »
If I understand it correctly, the BOOK is in the public domain, whereas the PLAY is still under copyright, which amounts to anything unique to the play (as opposed to what it has in common with the book) being copyrighted.  I could be mistaken, but that might explain why it is that in the US any stage adaptation we're likely to see is not J. M. Barrie's original but the Mary Martin musical....
It's more a (self-perpetuating) matter of the musical being better-known. In the perception of most people in the US, "Peter Pan" = "a Disney movie" or "a Broadway musical", and Barrie's play and novel are (if they aware of them) just the source material for them.  Much like if you mention Gone with the Wind or The Wizard of Oz or 2001: A Space Odyssey, people will assume you're talking about a film.
Davies Family / Re: 1911 census
« on: October 02, 2011, 01:14:41 PM »
Interesting that they categorize JMB as "married"; the instructions do not offer the option of "divorced".  However "widow" and "widower" are two distinct options, reflecting the fact that one meant a different social status than the other.
Peter Pan / Re: Peter and Wendy first Uk impression undated.... why?
« on: March 24, 2011, 03:23:39 PM »
It seems most likely just a typical publishing oversight, but IF Barrie requested that the year of publication not be included, I'd guess it was because he wanted to pretend that it was an old story.
Peter Pan / Re: What is Neverland?
« on: January 12, 2011, 06:48:38 PM »
Barrie seems to be rather definite about Neverland varying from one child to the next, with John's having a lagoon with flamingos flying overhead, and Michael's having a flamingo with lagoons flying overhead. :)  Which doesn't mean that it cannot be shared; the real world differs from one perspective to another (just ask supporters of different political parties), and yet we obviously share it.
Peter Pan / Re: Peter Pan as Death - Dissertation help
« on: January 12, 2011, 06:40:29 PM »
I've come across a reference or two to Peter and the Lost Boys being an example of the "totenkinder" (German for "death of children") genre, but I don't know anything about it.

Nothing to do with Peter, but I trust you're looking at Neil Gaiman's personification of Death in The Sandman?
General topic / Re: The spammers are out. .
« on: December 03, 2010, 08:01:02 PM »
Maybe there's a "report spam" button for some users, but not for me. :(
Bugs and Errors / Re: spam
« on: November 01, 2010, 12:47:51 AM »
I've done a little research, and apparently there is a "report to moderator" feature.  This would be a convenient way to deal with the recent signature-spammers.
Peter Pan / Re: Peter and Wendy illustrations in Hook
« on: November 01, 2010, 12:31:13 AM »
As far as I know they're original to the Spielberg film.  It'd be easier and cheaper to have one of the film's storyboard artists draw something new for them than to secure the rights to use an outside illustrator's art.
Bugs and Errors / spam
« on: October 19, 2010, 08:47:38 PM »
Does this forum software have a feature for reporting spam posts?  There's been a small rash of them lately, and it'd be nice to get them cleaned out.
Peter Pan / Re: Editing the Play: a New Message
« on: October 08, 2010, 02:48:56 PM »
I agree wholeheartedly.  I'm a firm supporter of copyright in the sense that James Madison was thinking when he wrote it into the U.S. Constitution: the creator of a work should have exclusive control over it and get to profit from it, but after a period of time it becomes part of our cultural heritage (like the Odyssey, Le Morte D'Arthur, Hamlet, Tom Sawyer, etc), and should be available for anyone to use.
JMBarrie / Re: When Wendy Grew Up: An After Thought
« on: October 06, 2010, 04:48:42 PM »
The simplest solution to the murkier aspects of the copyright question is to donate a small percentage of any profits (say 10%) to GOSH, regardless of whether the law requires it or not. It's what Barrie would have wanted, after all ...
That would settle the ethical question, but not the legal one; GOSH would still have grounds to pursue a copyright infringement suit in the US if they chose.
JMBarrie / Re: When Wendy Grew Up: An After Thought
« on: October 06, 2010, 04:46:06 PM »
So this doesn't include the fact that stuff in the book is also in the just means only stuff from the book and nothing that may have come later in the publication of the play?
I think you've got it.  For example, the "Don't get any letters" conversation appears in both the 1911 novel and the 1928 published script. That's public domain in the US, because it was in the novel.  But Wendy using a broomstick after she starts getting older and her flying gets shaky does not appear in print until the 1928 publication of the play, so it's an element of the story that is under copyright here.  It's a nitpicky distinction, but that's the law.
JMBarrie / Re: When Wendy Grew Up: An After Thought
« on: September 25, 2010, 01:32:28 PM »
So if someone wanted to create their own version of the story for film or play etc based off the book they are allowed even in the US because it's in public domain?
Correct.  As long as they use only elements introduced in the novel Peter and Wendy (or LWB/PPiKG), and do not use anything introduced in the 1928 publication of the play (or other adaptations, which are under someone else's copyright), this is legal.

The only exceptions to this are in the few countries whose copyright terms are longer than the EU's: St Vincent and the Grenadines (all of JMB's copyrights expire in 2013), Spain and Colombia (2018), and Mexico (2038!).  So if you speak Spanish and want to produce an unauthorized Pedro Pan y Wendy, you might find the lawful market for it somewhat constrained for a while yet.
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