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Peter Pan / Peter Pan Graphic Novel
« Last post by Dani1923 on January 29, 2021, 04:39:27 PM »
There was a old post about this years ago, but I recently bought the Peter Pan graphic novel adapted by Stephen White or “Stref” and illustrated by Fin Cramb, and I finished reading it yesterday.
I highly recommend this book! The drawings are beautiful and there are little details sprinkled throughout the pages that are connected to Barrie, especially if you look at the framed pictures in the Darling nursery!
My favorite detail is that the Darlings own a small framed picture of Michael Llewelyn-Davies dressed as Peter Pan! The drawing is just an outline of the image, but if you know the image well, you can definitely tell that’s what it’s supposed to be!
You can buy the book on Amazon!

Peter Pan / Re: «Jas Hook at Eton» 1925 manuscript version vs 1927 speech
« Last post by Brutus on January 25, 2021, 11:08:26 AM »
I did, thanks - and have now replied.
Peter Pan / Re: «Jas Hook at Eton» 1925 manuscript version vs 1927 speech
« Last post by Helen1037 on January 24, 2021, 06:48:51 PM »
I’ve forwarded the message with the scans to you. Please let me know if you received the email.
Peter Pan / Re: «Jas Hook at Eton» 1925 manuscript version vs 1927 speech
« Last post by Brutus on January 24, 2021, 03:41:31 PM »
Well done for researching and pursuing this and how fascinating. I'd love to see - and I'm sure others would too - so you could send them to my email here Andrew and I have been transcribing more letters from JMB these last weeks, so we might be able to help with deciphering your extract. We could also upload your scans on the database if you're OK with that.

As far as copyright is concerned, since all Barrie's works are in the public domain in the EU, technically the document from NYPL should be also - unless they're looking at it from the US point of view.

Thanks again! Great work.
Peter Pan / Re: «Jas Hook at Eton» 1925 manuscript version vs 1927 speech
« Last post by Helen1037 on January 24, 2021, 02:29:27 PM »
Update: I got a response from NYPL staff, a librarian confirmed that the quote does appear in the 1925 version of the story. They also provided me with photos of the holograph and the typed transcription that accompanies it. Those photos contained only a small, cropped piece of the text in which the quote appears, but that was enough for confirmation. The snippet itself is rather curious, astounding even: it seems to be part of a fleshed-out story from Hook’s school days. Here’s the text from the typed transcription (the beginning of the first sentence and the end of the last one are chopped in the photo):

«...the morals of his fellows. He brings one terrible indictment against the Head. Several of the boys smoked (we are speaking of far back days), and James, in an uplifting of the spirit, to purge the house, felt it his duty to carry the names to the Head, who first swiped them, and then, telling them who had peached, concluded with the extraordinary words “Don’t kick him in my presence.” Some hours later James returned to the Head, pale and limping, to say finely, “I forgive you, sir”, and, on being asked why, replied “Because I feel, sir, that in the ordinary...”»

The handwritten version has a continuation of the last sentence, but I haven’t deciphered it completely yet (as you all know, Barrie’s handwriting can be unintelligible at times). What’s unique and surprising about this text is that it differs greatly from the contents of the speech Barrie gave in 1927. The speech merely lists some facts when it comes to Hook’s life at Eton, whereas here we have an expanded anecdote with James actually getting to speak. From what I gather, Hook told on smoking boys, which caused them to be flogged, then he was beaten up by them for revenge, and then he came to the Headmaster to have a talk. If any of you wish to see the scans, you may contact me via email (, I’ll send them over to you.

As for the full version of the story, I’ve been told that it is theoretically possible to obtain a digitized copy for $150, but there’s no guarantee that the scans will actually be delivered. I’ve already placed an order for the scans and am currently waiting for curatorial approval (the documents’s copyright status should be reviewed).
JMBarrie / Re: J. M. Barrie's MBTI personality
« Last post by Sylvia8 on January 21, 2021, 03:22:22 PM »
The more I learn about it, the more I see J.M.B. was not interested in children but in their minds.

In Peter & Wendy, he says that Neverland is children's minds and I even see the mirror map in it with religion and murders and hangings and magical rewards (when you lose a tooth),... cause they are my conscious "personality" which is his uncounscious one.

He loved George and Michael more because their mind was close to his. Sometimes, you're attracted to your contrary too but he didn't get along very well with Jack cause when we mean our contrary, we mean our uncouscious brain functions so our second "personality" and that's not Jack's case...

Children learn their first function between age 0 and 7 then the 2nd one til 12 and so forth so "We too have been there but we shall land no more" as he says cause we can't go back to only having one function or 2 and their mirror ones (and ego and subconscious ones).

I think that's all it is. People search too far for things that don't exist in his relationship with the Llewelyn Davies boys. And again, he wrote it very clearly on his pages, no more explanation needed. I know he knew about it cause he says it's really confusing and he doesn't know if it's part of the same map or not.

I would like to know who had the idea to create water, garden, sun,... faeries please. Is it Disney or is it Barrie? Cause it's Carl Jung's work... It's brain functions, it's MBTI: created by 2 women: Myers and Briggs during WW2 to know which job was best suited for women using Carl Jung's brain functions... It's what the faeries do... It's what the hat in Harry Potter does by reading the children's minds to see in which Hogwarts house they belong... (J.K. Rowling said herself that she is INFJ by the way. Psychology is our field). I hope I dont take away the magical view Barrie had by saying this but I still think psychology is magic and that Barrie knew is uncounscious so knew it too.
Peter Pan / Re: Peter Pan at the National Theatre 2016
« Last post by Dani1923 on January 15, 2021, 09:09:58 PM »
I really hope I can see the recording of it one day!

Also Andrew, just so you know, the actress who played Mrs Darling/Hook is named Anna Francolini.
Peter Pan / Re: Peter Pan at the National Theatre 2016
« Last post by Brutus on January 15, 2021, 05:54:41 PM »
I saw Sally Cook's adaptation when it premiered at the Old Vic Theatre in Bristol two years before it came to the National Theatre. In that first production, Hook wasn't played by a woman but the actor who did was great. I also enjoyed it a lot - like Andrew said, more for the joyful spirit than anything else. My only criticism was Nana: she was played by a big burly man dressed as a woman dressed as a dog. It was too close to a panto dame and it jarred. I don't know whether they did the same at the NT.

I had my ticket for the National Theatre show, but I couldn't go at the last minute as I fell ill with flu. I was very sorry to miss it.
Peter Pan / Re: Peter Pan at the National Theatre 2016
« Last post by andrew on January 15, 2021, 05:23:49 PM »
The NT filmed it and distributed it for one day only to UK cinemas, so it definitely exists. It was brilliant - totally irreverent with the letter of the law - aka the text - but miraculously faithful to the spirit, and that's what matters, in my not-so-humble opinion. The prelude to the Pirate Ship scene was spine-chilling... Hook (played by whoever played Mrs Darling) stripped down to her bra and knickers, delivering her soliloquy while the obsequious Smee gradually dresses her in full pirate kit -- do not go to your graves without seeing it!
Peter Pan / Re: Peter Pan at the National Theatre 2016
« Last post by Hannah Grippo on January 15, 2021, 03:49:54 PM »
A teacher? I hope I can order one for my students when we study Peter Pan. That won't be for awhile though. Hope it's still available.
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