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MLD and Taylor-A note
« on: September 17, 2009, 03:24:15 PM »
As many of you know over the past few days there has been a rather rude tone to these forums...I have been given permission by Andrew to address this issue myself with the info he has found.

Firstly I would like to state why this is being posted. Over the past few days not only myself but Andrew himself and I'm sure there are others on here who have found MLD and Taylor's attitude just a little bit offensive to say the least. Andrew has discovered that these two share the same IP address. We felt it fitting that this be revealed as there has been trouble caused primarily since Taylor posted in the Michael Jackson thread...from then on...he claimed to have heard of Peter Pan being mentioned before the publication of "Little White Bird"...when Andrew wanted to know where he was met with rudeness and lack of sources being cited.

This being said Taylor also seems to have a fascination with Michael Llewelyn Davies...

Moving on...a few days after the defensive debate in the Michael Jackson thread a new member signs up: MLD (Michael Llewelyn Davies?)...who conveniently seems to have a problem with me (one of the main debaters in the Michael Jackson thread) and has an attitude toward Andrew as well...in fact to the point of calling him an "ass" publicly on this board. MLD seems to show a lack of quoting his sources as well and when asked to he gets defensive...like Taylor.

There has been a continued air of disrespect for the people of this forum and the owner of this forum and we thought it suiting that this information be published for you to draw your own conclusions.

From the information we know above and the IP address I think it has become apparent they are one and the same...if you are in the Geraldo thread you will notice at one point Taylor responds no more than 3 minutes after MLD's insult to me. They have the same IP address. Had MLD/Taylor been smart he probably would have restarted his modem before posting under another name and then restarted again before going back to the other ;)

That being said..they have exhibited the exact same personality not only to me but to Andrew and I'm sure this is becoming more apparent to the people on this board who have been following this mess.

MLD...you must learn to follow your own advice. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. You have been extremely rude on this board and you were most certainly projecting how you really were inside when you insulted me and called me childish. This behavior is low and it's uncalled for.

I think it is only fitting that MLD/Taylor owes this board and Andrew a major apology.

Thank you for reading.
« Last Edit: September 17, 2009, 03:28:38 PM by TheWendybird »

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Re: MLD and Taylor-A note
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2009, 04:16:52 PM »
Well said, WendyBird !

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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2009, 05:39:30 PM »
OWNED!!!!!

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I guess we should've seen it coming, actually. We all know about those scumbags who try to keep free-spirited individuals pinned down. They have a tendency to replicate themselves.

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« Last Edit: September 17, 2009, 05:41:52 PM by Peter Pan »

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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2009, 06:04:38 PM »
Well it was obvious that something odd was going on.  Thanks for setting the record straight.  This is a nice board and the website is so incredibly wonderful it makes me angry to see it abused.  And to insult Andrew - who has been so generous to all of us by making so much available - and for free!  Unconscionable! >:(

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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2009, 06:48:52 PM »
Whoa, you don't come on for a day and a half, and look what you miss! I'm actually glad I did, because if I had read MLD's postings to Andrew, I probably would've went ballistic and shouted (urr...typed) some profane blah, blah. But Wendy said it all very calm and clear, so I thank you along with the rest of the members. I actually had stopped the reading MJ arguments awhile ago, but now in looking over them, I see -as you said- that they were very rude to you too. Good for you, for keeping your cool. I'm not actually sure what this guy's motive is. It's one thing to debate about Barrie's innocence with children (WITH actual sources), but all this mumbo jumbo is ridculous. Whatever, get a life.

Again, well said, Wendy, thanks for posting.

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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2009, 06:50:49 PM »
Well it was obvious that something odd was going on.  Thanks for setting the record straight.  This is a nice board and the website is so incredibly wonderful it makes me angry to see it abused.  And to insult Andrew - who has been so generous to all of us by making so much available - and for free!  Unconscionable! >:(

Yeah this first started to become apparent to me before the IP was even found out...MLD even lashed out at me for suggesting it...but if it looks like a duck and acts like a duck...well lol That's what ticked me off too..we have this wonderful site..one I wished I had found sooner....dedicated to such a wonderful author and SUCH a wonderful story...Peter Pan is the end all be all for me...and to have to opportunity to interact with Andrew and discuss Barrie and his works with so many nice people...and to have someone come on here and act that way is just so horrible! But to call Andrew an ASS especially is just...too too much...when I read that it's like "OH my GOD where does he get the nerve to act that way on Andrew's forum??? He wouldn't have a forum to chat on about this at all only for him!" So stupid.

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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2009, 06:59:23 PM »
Whoa, you don't come on for a day and a half, and look what you miss! I'm actually glad I did, because if I had read MLD's postings to Andrew, I probably would've went ballistic and shouted (urr...typed) some profane blah, blah. But Wendy said it all very calm and clear, so I thank you along with the rest of the members. I actually had stopped the reading MJ arguments awhile ago, but now in looking over them, I see -as you said- that they were very rude to you too. Good for you, for keeping your cool. I'm not actually sure what this guy's motive is. It's one thing to debate about Barrie's innocence with children (WITH actual sources), but all this mumbo jumbo is ridculous. Whatever, get a life.

Again, well said, Wendy, thanks for posting.

Yeah I hear ya..it's very hard to keep calm in the face of someone like that. I like the idea of turn the other cheek up to a point..but at some point one must fight back. Once it went to Andrew...that's when it became "enough is enough". It's because of him we have this great forum and website. So I and my boyfriend (Peter Pan on here) talked to him about IP addresses and he got back to me telling me they were in fact the same IP. I can handle some knocking around...not that it doesn't tick me off but I could handle the MJ thread...I know why I say the things I say...because I relate to Barrie and Jackson..period...and felt I had something to contribute with my opinions because of that. I wasn't trying to force him to go with what I said..simply I wanted him to take a look at the opposite end of what he was saying because people who are innocent big kids exist..and me and my boyfriend are a couple of examples. I fully believe MJ was another. And of course the king of them all..Mr. Barrie! I agree with Andrew that everyone is entitled to their opinion..and I didn't deny MLD when he said "man boy love" had been around for many years. Just i failed to see why he couldn't also see the innocent side of it that exists out there as well. We should all try to see things from both P.O.V.'s whenever possible. I understand pedophiles are out there but there are also just plain old big kids who feel like kids and want to play with kids. I always feel so sad when I watch "The Lost Boys" and Barrie is sitting staring out the window thinking about when he was a boy....kinda reminds me of MJ talking about when he was a boy he use to look outside and see children playing but he had to work.

I hope everyone on here can find some peace now...the only motive I can think of besides just wanting to create a ruckuss was to convince people of Barrie being something that there is no proof of. But that's just my theory from what I've read..I obviously cannot read his mind.

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Re: MLD and Taylor-A note
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2009, 10:09:01 PM »
I will say one good thing this guy did--he made the forums a lot more active than I usually observe them to be.  But still, what a way to do that....  :P

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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2009, 01:24:04 AM »
So, is he/she/it/they banned, or can the hybrid lifeform still come here and post a temper-tantrum response to this?

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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2009, 01:43:30 AM »
well, whatever, i don't think we need to make that big of a deal about it now. Think Andrew and Wendy (and those who explained the crazy Barrie book such as Robert) handled it well. The posts were more rubbish than harmful (i'm not belittling anyone's feelings - hate it when people are mean, just saying his comments were so ridculous). I'm not sure if MLD/Taylor is coming back anyway, but we'll see.
« Last Edit: September 18, 2009, 03:58:54 AM by Hannah High »

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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2009, 03:56:36 AM »
Oh, and btw, Wendy, are you the person who made the video of scenes from The Lost Boys and Peter Pan (2003) to Michael Jackson's "Childhood" song on youtube?

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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2009, 04:50:25 AM »
Oh, and btw, Wendy, are you the person who made the video of scenes from The Lost Boys and Peter Pan (2003) to Michael Jackson's "Childhood" song on youtube?

Yup dat's me :D haha I use to have a channel on youtube under the name seraphim1983 for about a year and a half...youtube shut it down...then it was panswendybird but now me and my boyfriend have a joint account on there and I only re-uploaded vids I knew wouldn't get my account deleted lol I had well over 100 peter pan vids on my first account..so depressing cause now they'll put ads up for most songs so you can still get away with using them. Very frustrating.

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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2009, 10:16:31 PM »
Just to reassure everyone, the only users I block are porno spams as and when they show up. MLD/Taylor is welcome to the forum any time.

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« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2009, 10:35:18 PM »
Just to reassure everyone, the only users I block are porno spams as and when they show up. MLD/Taylor is welcome to the forum any time.

Good for you, Andrew, that's a great way to run a forum. But couldn't you be more lenient on those porno spamers?? Their posts are the only reason I visit after all!
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« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2009, 03:03:17 AM »
Just to reassure everyone, the only users I block are porno spams as and when they show up. MLD/Taylor is welcome to the forum any time.

Good for you, Andrew, that's a great way to run a forum. But couldn't you be more lenient on those porno spamers?? Their posts are the only reason I visit after all!

Har Har *sings* the internet is for porn..the internet is for porn...grab your *beep* and double click for porn porn porn :P I dunno if you know that song but it ran through my head...it's viral on youtube lol